All Wheel Drive Prototype Super Coupe

[ndoftyme69]

Does anyone have any pics of this car? I would love to see that thing. sounds sweet..

[ThunderDave]

There are pics of the AWD SC in the members area.:cool: ;)

[XR7inWI]

Yup, the pictures and all the info about the history of the car, it's present condition, location, and the future of the AWD SC are in the Members Forum. Only $15 to officially join the club and you can read all about it as well as get access to reams of info on lots of other subjects PLUS the Members Lounge Forum. Not only all that, but if you mail out a S.A.S.E. to George you can get SCCoA window decals for your car. Great deal for a meer $15/year.

Tracy

[trife86]

there are some pics floatin on tccoa but there is much more and much more info of it in our member section

[XxSlowpokexX]

$15 bucks will get you the whole scoop..JOIN!!!!

[ndoftyme69]

I went up to the bank last night to deposit the money to join at 11:30 last night.Now all I'm waiting on is paypal deposit verification thing so it will let me send the money and I'm in. Finallly. I'm on a realllly tight budget haven't had an extra 15 bucks lately.I have a 9month old daughter who takes all my money lol , she's the greatest.

[XR7inWI]

Cool, just remember... your membership is not INSTANT. It takes George sometimes as much as two weeks to get it all set up before you get access to the other forums and such. Then a bit longer before Ron gets your Member's page ready. These guys do this on their spare time so sometimes it takes a bit.

Just thought I would throw that out there since so many (I did it too) complain about it taking so long. It does say on the join page that it will take a couple weeks but most people miss that in the hurry to finally sign up after being around here for months or even years?:rolleyes:

Tracy

[Mike8675309]

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I have a 9month old daughter who takes all my money lol , she's the greatest.

You think she's taking all your money now? Just wait a few years.;)

[ndoftyme69]

Cool, just remember... your membership is not INSTANT. It takes George sometimes as much as two weeks to get it all set up before you get access to the other forums and such. Then a bit longer before Ron gets your Member's page ready. These guys do this on their spare time so sometimes it takes a bit.

Just thought I would throw that out there since so many (I did it too) complain about it taking so long. It does say on the join page that it will take a couple weeks but most people miss that in the hurry to finally sign up after being around here for months or even years?:rolleyes:

Tracy
Thats cool I'll remember not to complain. but still anxious to get the membership,I remember when I first came on this site right after I got my first bird (a 93 lx 5.0) about 4 years ago.I never knew what an SC was but when I found out I knew I had to get one and I was goin to become a member of this club. Now I have 2 SCs and I"m finally becoming a member.Its all coming together. Now I just have to concentrate on the lottery , Im goin to need the money for the supercoupes,lol.

[ndoftyme69]

You think she's taking all your money now? Just wait a few years.;)
I plan on winning the lottery saturday , so I'll have those years covered by next week. yea right,lol.

[FastSC]

hmm, that sucks the information is hidden behind closed doors. Ohh well....

Brian

[Scott Long]

I've been meaning to send George a check but I have no stamps and I am lazy and pay all my bills online... Does SCCOA have paypal? I'll send it tonight if they do.

[1FASTSC]

I think I'm going to piss everyone off and become a member! =)

[SCaddict]

I've been meaning to send George a check but I have no stamps and I am lazy and pay all my bills online... Does SCCOA have paypal? I'll send it tonight if they do.
Yes, paypal works. I just used it to sign up.:D

[XR7inWI]

hmm, that sucks the information is hidden behind closed doors. Ohh well....

Brian

Just one of the "perks" of membership. :)

I think I'm going to piss everyone off and become a member! =)

LOL... as much as you post here you really SHOULD pay up...:D

Tracy

[FastSC]

not being a member, I could see my viewpoint looking like someone who just doesn't want to be a member. Sure I would like to read about the car, but I am not going to spend $15 just to do so, and I don't own an SC anymore. IMO Hiding information in closed forums isn't contributing to attracting new people to the Super Coupe.

Brian

[XxSlowpokexX]

Brian,

Tis a shame you look at it that way. It's not hiding anything. It's a club project. If not a member of the club........... Sorry you dont feel $15 is an even worth while investment for a forum you apparently still visit. WHich costs time and money to run. Irregardless of still owning an SC or not

Damon

[FastSC]

I didn't even know it was a "club project", there's really no info available on it

you don't have to lecture me on the cost of forums and stuff, I've run some in the past and experienced what it's like to be an Admin, and at one time was a paying member of this club. I just don't own an SC anymore, and until I do atain I don't extract enough value from the 16 different forums I occasionally visit to pay each of them membership.

If there was some info like "here's a little info on our club project and a teaser, join up to learn more..." that would be a better use of having the project build membership. Instead no one outside the club knows anything, or that a club project even exists.

[FastSC]

I'll take back my comments, and I know I am probably about to be attacked by all the dues paying members. All I meant by my post is that it would be in the benift of the entire group (members and non-members) to know more about things like the existance of this AWD "Group project" and some basic information.

Brian

[XR7inWI]

Brian,

Tis a shame you look at it that way. It's not hiding anything. It's a club project. If not a member of the club........... Sorry you dont feel $15 is an even worth while investment for a forum you apparently still visit. WHich costs time and money to run. Irregardless of still owning an SC or not

Damon

AMEN!!!!! Heck it's only 15 bones... H3ll I can spend that on accident:eek:
LOLOL.... $15 ain't even enough to even THINK of walkin into the local bar with. I can drop $50 there without a problem.

But I see your point, man... if you don't even have an SC/XR7 then I can see why you don't wanna drop the money on a membership.

But for the AWD SC... that is a CLUB OWNED car and info and input on the AWD SC is therefor limited to MEMBERS.

Tracy

[Hock]

My renewal is in the mail....

on Monday!:D

[XR7inWI]

I'll take back my comments, and I know I am probably about to be attacked by all the dues paying members. All I meant by my post is that it would be in the benift of the entire group (members and non-members) to know more about things like the existance of this AWD "Group project" and some basic information.

Brian
I think you are right.... it would be a god thing for the "non paying" to know a little more about the AWD and other things going on in the club. It maybe WOULD help get more people to join. But the fact is.... if someone is gonna join... they are gonna join... it is nice to have things to entice people, but some will just remain non member for as long as they can, no matter how much they are missing out on.

The way I see it... if you use these boards, and you gain something from the info you find here... 15 bones is prety damn cheap to help support it...to hell with the member's forums.......There may be a ton of info there (and there is) but the info I get from the NON member forums alone is worth the $15.

Tracy

[FastSC]

There's a couple different ways to look at everything. I didn't even realize there was an AWD in club posession until now. Knowing that there is a club project also gives a little more merit to the idea that the club is actually doing somthing (Versus a few people just collecting dues to support their hobby). Bringing things out like that would only help, I think.

If I had a SC, I would probably pay dues and be a club member like I did in the past.

Brian

[David Neibert]

There's a couple different ways to look at everything. I didn't even realize there was an AWD in club posession until now. Knowing that there is a club project also gives a little more merit to the idea that the club is actually doing somthing (Versus a few people just collecting dues to support their hobby). Bringing things out like that would only help, I think.

If I had a SC, I would probably pay dues and be a club member like I did in the past.

Brian

Hi Brian,

When the TBSCEC merged with SCCoA several years ago, it was agreed on by TBSCEC members and the owner of SCCoA (George Davenport) that the info contained on the TBSCEC forums (all technical) would become members only forums on SCCoA.

I was very much involved in the merger and as TBSCEC Secretary I handled the majority of club communications and voting notifacitions. I'm sure Duffy or George could provide more info, but that's pretty much why it's members only.

David

[FastSC]

Hey David! What's up!!!

When I used to be a member of SCCoA I remembered the private area, and even before that I remember posting on the Thunderbird Super Coupe Enthusiast Club EZboards. I remember when everything transferred over too, it seems like that was a long time ago :)

Having private club boards are normal, I think every dues-charging club does have lounge type forums. It seems to me that motivating discussions on those boards that relate to tech info or other SC-specific discussions that are only searchable by members creates two tech areas with two seperate sets of info, posts, questions, and effort.

But like I said in my other post, I am not questioning the value of membership, I've paid it in the past when I had an SC. I just think that puting some info on the private boards like the club AWD project seems to be a waste since it could instead promote the club, it's functions, and even more of the heritage on the Super Coupe to non-members that may be visiting for the first time.

Brian

[VicRattlehead]

Having private club boards are normal, I think every dues-charging club does have lounge type forums. It seems to me that motivating discussions on those boards that relate to tech info or other SC-specific discussions that are only searchable by members creates two tech areas with two seperate sets of info, posts, questions, and effort.

But like I said in my other post, I am not questioning the value of membership, I've paid it in the past when I had an SC. I just think that puting some info on the private boards like the club AWD project seems to be a waste since it could instead promote the club, it's functions, and even more of the heritage on the Super Coupe to non-members that may be visiting for the first time.

Brian

Brian, I agree with ya 100% they keep everything hidden and no one knows what is actually there and nothing to let you know that there is anything there. i went through a whole speel a month ago on this on 'what do i get when i pay my money' i didnt get enough out of it to have to pay for it. and on your comment " I think every dues-charging club does have lounge type forums." this is the only board that i post on that the 'lounge forum' is behind the pay to play wall. but I like you dont own a sc, and it seems that its way to much trouble to even get an answer out of some people selling their sc that it looks like i wont ever own one.

[Ddubb]

I dont think you are missing out on very much in the Members only section of the forum. There are more posts in the Technical and Non Technical sections. The AWD SC information is pretty new, but nothing is really going on with it yet, other than the car being obtained by the SCCOA recently. So dont expect a full blown in depth article until some work has actually been done to it.

I didnt pay the $15 membership fee expecting to get a whole lot out of the club. Its not what the club can do for me, but what I can do for the club. We're all contributing to the resources of information contained here in one way or another. Some people just come here because they have nothing better to do it seems.

I think the best thing Ive got out of the club is the member discounts through the vendors. That and the fact that I can be proud to say that I am an owner of a SC myself and I am helping to support the club dedicated specifically to the SC and XR7's.

The $15 membership is a really low price to pay for a forum that many of us check on a daily basis. Thats only $1.25 per month. I make enough to pay for the membership fee in an hour at work. I work on my car for many many hours during the year and spend hours reading these forums. You just cant get that kind of help or information anywhere else. Just ask how much money a Ford dealership wants to look at your car for one hour.

[David Neibert]

Hey David! What's up!!!

When I used to be a member of SCCoA I remembered the private area, and even before that I remember posting on the Thunderbird Super Coupe Enthusiast Club EZboards. I remember when everything transferred over too, it seems like that was a long time ago :)

Having private club boards are normal, I think every dues-charging club does have lounge type forums. It seems to me that motivating discussions on those boards that relate to tech info or other SC-specific discussions that are only searchable by members creates two tech areas with two seperate sets of info, posts, questions, and effort.

But like I said in my other post, I am not questioning the value of membership, I've paid it in the past when I had an SC. I just think that puting some info on the private boards like the club AWD project seems to be a waste since it could instead promote the club, it's functions, and even more of the heritage on the Super Coupe to non-members that may be visiting for the first time.

Brian

Brian,

I understand what your saying, but that's what the majority of the TBSCEC members voted to do, so that's why it happened that way. Prior to the merger the only private forums I'm aware of on SCCoA, were moderator only or Shootout planning committee forums.

David

PS: Are you still in FL ?

[VicRattlehead]

I dont think you are missing out on very much in the Members only section of the forum. There are more posts in the Technical and Non Technical sections. The AWD SC information is pretty new, but nothing is really going on with it yet, other than the car being obtained by the SCCOA recently. So dont expect a full blown in depth article until some work has actually been done to it.


im in no way worried about the awd sc at the moment, and being that i dont have a sc yet, i not that worried about what happens in the member forum. in due time ill eventually pay the membership fee and see whats up in there. but that wont happen until i get a job again, and get a sc.

[Scott Long]

Finally was able to log in to paypal and transfer funds to sccoa. So now I have no more excuses. I tried last night but I wasn't able to log in to paypal I don't know why. I will appologize to the sccoa guys for recieving multiple join requests from me. But now lets see how long it takes until I'm authorized.

[68COUGAR]

Reminds me of that 16 yr. old knobhead that wanted to spend $75,000 to convert his SC into AWD with paddle shifters on the steering wheel.

68COUGAR

[Scott Long]

If I had 75k to spend on a car, I'd either buy a Porsche Carrera 4 turbo (used) or spend the money on my sc, fix it up to perfect, have a solid engine built, and then maybe have a turbo system installed. And the rest of the money I'd take it and invest it in either real estate or small business.

[fturner]

If I had 75k to spend on a car, I'd either buy a Porsche Carrera 4 turbo (used) or spend the money on my sc, fix it up to perfect, have a solid engine built, and then maybe have a turbo system installed. And the rest of the money I'd take it and invest it in either real estate or small business.

And you think $75,000 is gonna give you that "perfect" SC.... dude, don't count on doing any investments :D

hehehehe kidding (or maybe not)

Frit

[AsScLoWn]

what is this, info about a car or a 3 page ad:rolleyes:

[Duffy Floyd]

There is always a question of why people chose to support a club and why some do not make the same choice. To me one factor to be considered is if I get anything of value as a result of being a member. Of course there are situations where I chose to support a cause or club for other reasons but value is one part of the equation for me as I would suspect it is for many others. Now, what is "Value"?

There are many ways to define value and each person's perceptions are different. For me, I have always believed that one measure of value is access to information. Other's may feel the ability to "hang out" on-line and converse with folks that have some of the same interests is value. Others may see it differently and come here for other reason's entirely.

The point being that maintaining this board and trying to "run" a club a costly. It costs not only money but also is demanding of people's time and expertise to accomplish. The Administrators of this club do want to grow the club. Why you ask? Well from my standpoint we would like to grow the club so as a community we can accomplish more for the XR-7/SC Community as a whole. We want to assist people in the preservation of their cars and ensure they have the knowledge necessary to maintain and modify them. To have a large enough community so we can get support from Ford and/or other vendors to supply us parts.

The point being with this discussion is since access to information is one possible way people perceive value we want to ensure there is a good reason for people to join.....hence information in the private forums is private and reserved for the members of the club. There is some 9800 registered folks on this site. Yet the SCCoA has about 600 dues paying members. Even if you assume that many of the 9800 registered may not be active this site does use a bunch of bandwidth and there are many folks visiting the site that are not members of the SCCoA.

Perhaps some folks would like to respond and tell me why they joined, if they percieve they are getting value for their $15.00 dues and also why people have not chosen to join and what would change their minds about joining. Rather than hijack this thread we could start a new one for people to post their views in.

[FastSC]

David,
I am still in Florida, but may eventually be relocating somewhere else.


Duffy,
I am not doubting the value of club membership, I think that if you own a super coupe then $15 is a small price to pay for both forum maintenance and club benifits. Proof I believe that lies in the fact that I was a member when I owned an SC.

The question I brought up was why the technical information and things that could motivate more people to become SC enthusiasts was blocked to members only. You have answered that question, and I think your answer that it is done to motivate membership is reasonable. There's always advantages and disadvantages to decisions like that, but I respect your position and the group decision to leave it that way.

Brian

[Duffy Floyd]

Brian,

You are correct. There are always positives and negatives for every decision one makes. And as they say you can't make everyone happy all the time. I will say since we started to actually "show" the Member's Only Section forums that some folks have decided to join to gain access. On the other hand there are those that probably feel slighted and may decide never to join because of our stance. Just the way it is. Not to say who is "right" or who is "wrong.....just a fact of life.

[Scott Long]

Wow thats quick, I'm still awaiting my member number but I am able to read the members only forums!!! I haven't found the AWD SC info yet, can someone send me a link or tell me which forum to look in?

[gldiii]

Scott, just try the "Search" link for "AWD".

[90XR7Cougar5spd]

Wow thats quick, I'm still awaiting my member number but I am able to read the members only forums!!! I haven't found the AWD SC info yet, can someone send me a link or tell me which forum to look in?
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61514 Ask and u shall recieve.......

[Scott Long]

Thanks. Very neat piece of SC history to pick up. I imagine this car is truly priceless. If you ever get strapped for cash you could sell it at Barrett Jackson. LOL...

[XxSlowpokexX]

Seriously I would loveeeeee to own something like that. Even more interesting is if we can get a parts list and reproduction of one off parts and well..... You know :O)

I bet alot of those parts besides the obvious custom ones can be had from salvage yards.

Anyway we can um maybe....Fit different rims on it? hehehe

[89SCK@t]

GOD!! its like dangling a boob in front of a hungry baby...I hate you guys...your making me ask my wife for 15 bucks...:D

[ThunderDave]

GOD!! its like dangling a boob in front of a hungry baby...I hate you guys...your making me ask my wife for 15 bucks...:D

You won't be sorry.;) :D :cool: