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wakinyantanka
03-29-2006, 10:15 AM
I have a manufacturer providing me with one I had them special built. If fit and finish is good I'll be offering them to you guys and gals here at the site.:) :cool:

Kurt K
03-29-2006, 10:33 AM
Let me know the details when you find out.

Was it based on information found in this thread? (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19223)

Also, there was another thread, (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74320&highlight=shorter+condenser) that had a lot of interested people.

wakinyantanka
03-29-2006, 11:02 AM
Let me know the details when you find out.

Was it based on information found in this thread? (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19223)

Also, there was another thread, (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74320&highlight=shorter+condenser) that had a lot of interested people.
This was done of my own need for one. It was built to my specs. and I should have it by Monday and installed by next weekend. I'll let everyone know when it's installed and how it works.:D

rzimmerl
03-29-2006, 12:14 PM
let us know, ASAP. Alot of us have been looking for these, you might want to post in the other thread with a link to this one

Ira R.
03-29-2006, 05:57 PM
Absolutely! Pics and specs will be wanted by everyone for a product which will be in pretty high demand.

Ira

Jason Wild
03-29-2006, 09:00 PM
I'm looking for one as well so long as the price is good.

92strokedbird
03-29-2006, 09:37 PM
Keep us updated.:rolleyes:

wakinyantanka
03-31-2006, 10:33 PM
This was done of my own need for one. It was built to my specs. and I should have it by Monday and installed by next weekend. I'll let everyone know when it's installed and how it works.:D

I got it sooner than expected. It looks fantastic I'll post pics as soon as I find my camera.
For all those who wish to purchase please see Victor at SpinningwheelsSC.
He will soon have all the details and pricing.
I think these are going to be awsome. :)

Jason Wild
03-31-2006, 10:46 PM
We can not just Deal with you on get some condensors.

wakinyantanka
04-01-2006, 12:23 AM
We can not just Deal with you on get some condensors.

I would prefer we go through Victor.:)

Pablo94SC
04-13-2006, 08:53 PM
Not to be a douche, but having to go through him means you have basically given him a monopoly on the condensor, and therefore he can charge whatever he sees fit. Unless he did all the leg work himself, or you're getting a cut of the profits, that sort of defeats the purpose of having a community where we share information.

cougarsc
04-13-2006, 10:47 PM
Are these two tube row or three rows like the Aircon unit?

XxSlowpokexX
04-13-2006, 11:55 PM
Paul,

Everyone that sells stuff here does it for a profit..COMMONE NOW! :O)

You must be real bored at work hehe

Ira R.
04-14-2006, 02:52 AM
Meanwhile, it's two weeks and we still haven't heard anything. What is up with this!!??

Ira

Kurt K
04-14-2006, 07:57 AM
Meanwhile, it's two weeks and we still haven't heard anything. What is up with this!!??

Ira

I agree. I'd like to know more details....2 rows or 3 rows is a big deal for me. If it's only 2 rows, I have trouble believing that there will be enough surface area to work properly.

92strokedbird
04-14-2006, 08:17 AM
Why would we go thru a middleman to purchase these.I can see someone getting another supplier,this is crap.:mad:

wakinyantanka
04-17-2006, 10:06 PM
I have a manufacturer providing me with one I had them special built. If fit and finish is good I'll be offering them to you guys and gals here at the site.:) :cool:
OK, Sorry I've been very busy with family and other obligations. To all those so concerned these are two row units,however there are many more tubes inside the exchange area there by increasing surface area to exchange heat.
Efficiency will be just fine. As I see it this is a better solution than no AC at ALL!!!
To see it installed go here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8057743337&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT

wakinyantanka
04-17-2006, 10:12 PM
http://i2.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/e9/8c/a9_1.JPG

Pablo94SC
04-17-2006, 10:55 PM
Excellent. I'll be picking one up before too long.

XxSlowpokexX
04-18-2006, 12:07 AM
Why would we go thru a middleman to purchase these.I can see someone getting another supplier,this is crap.
Why?...For a profit..Just like any of the others that sell stuff around here :O)

wakinyantanka
04-18-2006, 06:56 AM
Why?...For a profit..Just like any of the others that sell stuff around here :O)

AMEN brother:)

victor malvar
04-20-2006, 04:56 PM
Hello to everyone....

I have known Royce for a year at least. I was not aware of this post until I received a couple of emails asking about short condensors. I spoke with Royce the day before yesterday and asked him to please reply to this post.

I have worked with him in the past and have done good business together.
Pablo or anyone else...Please ask HIM why he chose us...

We are not looking to have any monopoly on condensers, It's his deal!!! Since we spoke we agreed on a fair and reasonable price for all interested parties.
Most everyone that sells anything on SCCoA tries to make reasonable profit.In business this is consired Normal! Thank you Royce for your consideration.

If we can further assist we will do so.

I felt a reply to this post was appropriate.

Everyone have a great week end.

Victor

Ira R.
04-20-2006, 07:25 PM
Excellent. I'll be picking one up before too long.

Let us know how that goes, please. I could use a couple also, but like Kurt, I am concerned that only 2 rows will be enough to get the job done. That means we just elected you the guinea pig! :p


Can we also get some dimensions on this thing. I am curious if the pusher fan I have on the car will still fit, or will it need to be replaced or removed. The pictures are good, but they don't answer all the questions.


Ira

XxSlowpokexX
04-20-2006, 07:29 PM
Irar I have one..Works great witha stock located IC

Ira R.
04-20-2006, 09:29 PM
Irar I have one..Works great witha stock located IC
You have what, one of these condensors?? Remember, I don't have a stock located IC. I have FMIC's. One from MP, one a custom homemade.

Ira

wakinyantanka
04-20-2006, 09:38 PM
Hello to everyone....

I have known Royce for a year at least. I was not aware of this post until I received a couple of emails asking about short condensors. I spoke with Royce the day before yesterday and asked him to please reply to this post.

I have worked with him in the past and have done good business together.
Pablo or anyone else...Please ask HIM why he chose us...

We are not looking to have any monopoly on condensers, It's his deal!!! Since we spoke we agreed on a fair and reasonable price for all interested parties.
Most everyone that sells anything on SCCoA tries to make reasonable profit.In business this is consired Normal! Thank you Royce for your consideration.

If we can further assist we will do so.

I felt a reply to this post was appropriatte.

Everyone have a great week end.

Victor

Thanks for the support Victor. :D

Kurt K
04-21-2006, 12:51 AM
Irar I have one..Works great witha stock located IC

Damon, is your shorter condensor a 2 row or 3 row? Have you been caught in 90+ F, high humidity day and still had ice cold AC.

wakinyantanka
05-01-2006, 09:50 PM
Sold a few and buyers have been very happy with fit and finish. Also told me they work great.:cool: :D

victor malvar
05-11-2006, 08:53 AM
Hi Royce I am back to working on other things we spoke about. I need to know what to say to your customers about the condenser. I keep getting emails wanting us to sell them a set. Please get in touch with me ASAP. Some folks are very confused whether your selling them or we are. either way it's fine with us. Seems to me some people want to deal with you and others want to deal with us. It's confusing. I need to know what to explain to customers who are not all SCCoA members, but do use SCCoA for information.
I can do whatever you want us to do. But you need to make a choice so I know how to guide these people. I still can do the How to. If you need us to place them in our store as you decided. Looks like you got a little pressure here...I am o.k. either way.

I will speak with your brother this Friday. Got to run. Call me ASAP.

Thanks,
Victor.......

XxSlowpokexX
05-11-2006, 12:07 PM
Hey sorry guys I havnt reread this post. I was using (not this one but the one previously offered) in my red car with the stock located spearco IC. The AC never worked any less efficient then when using the original one. If this one is way different then the one that was offered before then I cnat give you a good answer.

Ira,

Why would you want this with a front mount? The whoel idea is to open up that area to get more airflow to the stock located IC

Ira R.
05-11-2006, 12:13 PM
Ira,

Why would you want this with a front mount? The whoel idea is to open up that area to get more airflow to the stock located IC

Yes, but would it not also allow increased air flow to everything behind the front mount, and therefore allow for more cooling on everything else as well?

I figured it would get more air back to the radiator area, by taking out another thing to block air flow.

Ira

XxSlowpokexX
05-11-2006, 12:37 PM
Ira if anything it would open that one section but leave the rest a lil more restricted due to a thicker core. I'd say stick with factory for front mounts

kentv6
05-11-2006, 07:36 PM
I brought one to works great and I live in FL. Thanks
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merkur
05-15-2006, 08:59 PM
I must have missed the price somewhere. Just a roundabout would do. When I first got my SC home that is one of the first dumb things I saw on these things. Then I thought to myself. "Self" I said, "you aren't gonna race with the AC on are ya"? Well that made me feel better, but I still want the short one for the increased air flow. I put the front mount on my GN behind the condenser, but I didn't put a belt on the compressor. Later......Danny

92strokedbird
05-15-2006, 09:07 PM
I would wait and see how well the AC works in the heat of summer.The 3 core is the way to go.

35thauto
05-19-2006, 08:58 AM
does anyone see a price posted? 3 pages of talk & no price? is it too high to post or am I not seeing it?

Roadhawg
05-19-2006, 10:07 AM
Seems to be $198.50 on Ebay......................


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8057743337&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT

victor malvar
05-19-2006, 10:23 AM
[QUOTE=92strokedbird]Why would we go thru a middleman to purchase these.I can see someone getting another supplier,this is cra


My name is Victor not middleman. The reason he is doing through me is because he feels I am set up to do this type of thing. He is not as set up as we are. Also we have worked together before. I am simply helping the SC members and Royce...possibly you? If you need one just ask and I will try to hook you up.

You know what they say "Don't burn bridges you may need to cross them again sometime."

I hope your doing fine. I could bad mouth you but there is no need to do that! It's a waste of good energy. Take your unfounded anger somewhere were it helps not hurts others. Have a good weekend.

If you happen to need my assistance just ask in a nice way Bla Bla Bla! your quote towards me in another post! Man take it easy you will live longer and you will feel much better! I am here to help people not out not hurt anyone.Have a good week end and blow some steam were it's needed. This is a place to help make our cars better not to throw stones at people you have never met me!!! You don't know me. Maybe I will get a chance to meet you someday and shake hands. No body talks like that to each other face to face! We are all together to help each other. Otherwise you would not be here to make your car run a little better. :cool: :D :D :p

Thanks for your input.
Victor......

victor malvar
05-19-2006, 11:27 AM
does anyone see a price posted? 3 pages of talk & no price? is it too high to post or am I not seeing it?



Thanks kentV6!
He called me and asked me to help him with this because he has a new job and he and his brother are working at night on other things. Pricing...I think they are $189. Last time I looked, plus shipping and that can't be more than $15.00 to $18.00 give or take,.. depending on where you live. Please request insurance.It's pretty hot in Florida lately and it's been in the 90's.So it is hot and humid today and will be 90+++ degrees!!!

I will try to answer everyone as fast as I can. If you want one real quick, just holler by email! We do take credit cards by phone or paypal etc. I think it should do fine. He is the person that did the research. He has tested it and has the guts to place himself in a responsible position. I know he would not do you wrong. He has had his own automotive business. That should say enough for his credibility!

KentV6 he is from Florida and so are we. He is a good testimony to it's functionality. What's hot for one maybe cold to another that's the way it is with us. I like it freezing and Diane likes it cool. I think It depends on what you prefer as far as what your needs are. We have all tried new things on our cars. I don't think he would sell these if it did not do a fair job. It would be crazy to do that. I do not think there are returns so remember to ask.

He also told me he is a A/C specialist and the air was coming out
real cold when he tested this short AC condenser. I will try to assist everyone who needs questions answered the best I can.Hope to be able to assist everyone! We will list it today if possible so that anybody who needs one can just click on the listing. I will speak with him as needed.

Thanks neighbor kentV6 for your testimonial! Stop by sometime!

victor malvar
05-19-2006, 11:45 AM
Yes, but would it not also allow increased air flow to everything behind the front mount, and therefore allow for more cooling on everything else as well?

I figured it would get more air back to the radiator area, by taking out another thing to block air flow.

Ira


I think that it depends on who needs it and for what reasons. I agree with Damon and Ira It depends on what your ultimate goals are. Some of us race and others do not. It's a matter of what your ultimate goals are. It's kind of like the MAC CAI At first no one wanted it and we sat on 5 of these for a year almost then enough testing was done and now they are on back order until June due to the demand. We Started these 3 years ago and everyone was concerned about the bend and Hydro locking your engines. I don't think you should drive into uncharted water puddles or small floods. If you think it will help you personally you should do what is right for you. These forums help us all determine things sometimes. Ira I read your email Cool!

Regards to you both!

Victor......

victor malvar
05-19-2006, 12:46 PM
We will be selling them for $189.99 Plus shipping. Lower 48 anyone from any other place ask us for a shipping quote.Use our link once we list these short condensors. It may get you a little better price. We have to pay eBay and so did he. eBay charges sellers plenty. This is a referral link which helps us cut a couple bucks of the price. Why pay more! If we can save on fees from eBay we will pass those savings on to you. We will try to list it ASAP. We will post it as soon as we list it.

Thanks again.

This will take you directly to the store than find it and we will have them drop shipped directly to you. This will also save on shipping.

Click here; http://stores.ebay.com/Spinning-Wheels-SC?refid=store

Ken Seegers
05-19-2006, 04:28 PM
how difficult would it be to have the manufacture make a 3 core unit? I agree with Kurt, I do not see how a short condensor that is the same thickness with work when the summer temps are 90+. Remember you are removing 1/3 of the condensor.

Thanks
Ken

92strokedbird
05-19-2006, 06:25 PM
I am contacting makers of condensers here in Ontario,i am going to get a 3 core unit made for our cars.If anyone would like to get a 3 core unit we could order them all together direct from the manufacturer.I hate to think about losing 1/3 of our core by cutting corners,i believe that these cars are in need of a good air conditioning system and would not like to downgrade this condenser just to get a shorter one.I will post here when i have a solution to this problem.

Have a nice weekend all,hope that all is well.Live long and prosper.Peace be with you.

victor malvar
05-19-2006, 08:22 PM
Hi Steven,
Peace be with you also! Glad to see you're getting excited about this and checking things out for us all. That's cool Steven...!!! Let's not kill this guy's hard work with a single shot. He is also trying to improve these cars.We all are trying to do the same as he is. Trying to make it better. He is not getting rich on this by any means. His costs are high and I am not tacking anything on to the price. I just lowered it to $189.00 I will eat my cost. Please use the link so we don't get nailed by eBay's fees. Thanks!:cool:



Hi Ken everytime I see your name Seeger...I think of Bob Seiger.... he made some good sound!!!

I am not sure how hard it would be or costly to make a 3 core stock size condenser. I understand that this condenser has alot more tubing inside for better cooling. We all know the concept with the copper tubing in a coil and how that works. The longer the coils are the longer it will hold cool water like in a water fountain. Some have shorter coils and the water starts to get warm. After 2 or 3 thirsty people drink, not all will get to drink the coldest water. Now unless the coils are longer....I think this is the reason it does the job pretty well. I do not disagree nor agree with your concept or Kurt's or Stevens... I know Kurt and you are savvy dudes. Most everyone who owns an SC better learn pretty quick or have a good mechanic and a few bucks to spend. I respect your logic as well as Damons.We will get more testimonials soon on these condensers and just how efficient they are.Yo KentV6 if you're around these forums today or tomorrow give us an update on how yours is doing in this 95 degree temperature we're having today. Jump in as soon as you read these post and tell us how yours is working today.There is another condenser which George Davenport has used and Sailsevenseas bought and recommended awhile back. I think it was a two core not sure. If it had worked real well they could chime in. I am going to get one of these and have it installed and see myself.
I don't think he would call it an ACE if it were a piece of JUNK. Why bother with it and go through the trouble of researching it and testing it then seeing the test and comparing it to a 3 core. He told me he was getting real low temperatures while testing with other cars. I know he has been working on this for awhile. Knowing he works on A/C's all the time he can probably compare these to others that have a 3 core and noticed that in fact it is showing similar temps. Technology is constantly improving and with the price of metal, some may have hit a home run here trying to build a system that cools as well using less metal but more tubing make sense. Plus being able to save money on the metal and still getting good results which are good enough to market it and it be acceptable to people's need in the summer. I believe he might be onto something here. The man and his brother are pretty savvy guys and have been working on SC's for awhile so lets see what happens. Heck even my 3 core Black SC takes it a good while to cool off in 90 plus degree temps. It may just work as good or better and still get some extra air into our engine compartment. Let's give it a fighting chance. Who knows until we try them out. I am not an expert but I feel it's worth a shot. I should get reports from others and I will pass them on. I am sure Royce doesn't want anyone to pay $189.00 if it is not useful. Let's keep an open mind. Sorry for my cliff notes!
You all stay cool you hear!:) ;)
Victor.........

92strokedbird
05-19-2006, 10:30 PM
If you read this post you will see that George Davenport used a 2 core unit but found that it was not up to the task.:eek: :rolleyes: :D

The 3 core unit was much better suited to the task.:D :cool:

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19223&highlight=aircon

Payton
05-20-2006, 12:04 AM
Wow, good thing you guys brough it up!
Steve, thank you for the link. I am going to call them tomorrow and order one. Let me know if you are shopping for one, maybe we can combine shipping! Price is unbeatable!
Sorry to steal your thread, Victor.

victor malvar
05-20-2006, 04:50 AM
I am trying to help make a educated and responsible post for everyone. I have to be honest for the good of everyone. I know that Royce would want the same! It's to make everyone happy with their purchase. If It was a 3 core than that's what it is. George knows plenty about the Super Coupe!!! I would think that having the 1 st place winning SC in many car shows some were I just admired that 1989 he owns is a work or art. There are other SC that are just as beautiful just diffrent looks and styles. He knows what works. I figure if we have to get vindictive here over a condeser something is wrong. I am the one that mentioned George Davenports car it's because I knew about this conderser! George D. and Chris S. Sailsevenseas, also bought one. He is not trying to pull the wool over any ones eyes. The purpose here is to get the best product for our cars. I am trying to find what works best for us all When I spoke to Royce we spoke about controversies.... I still think that Royce is trying to promote a product that he truly believes in and so do a few others. I am here to assist in anyway I can and how ever it goes as long as we are well informed don't knock it unless you hear negative remarks about it from the people who have purchased one and what's their experiance with this condenser. I had to mention Georges condenser or not be up front about everything I knew. I know that will give us all an alternative to the thicker condenser and extra air flow at a fair price. I said, I was here to help everyone including Royce. Geoges 3 core was good to mention so we can compare. Why wouldn't we all want to know other options to also compare or include the one Royce feels will do the Job. This is what we are trying to conclude what works and at what price? I was going to buy one like Georges' I want everyone to make an educated decision... If I am going to sell it for him or for anyone !!! I call it as I see it. I mentioned it so you all would be able to do what is right for you. Not Royce or myself. This is for the community to make a good choice and for myself as well... As I said earlier...Let the testemonials determine the outcome if this condenser is it right for you or not. This is not a popularity contest. This is for real and real hard earned money to many of us! so whatever has to be brought to the table to compare it to. This is ultimate purpose of this thread. I think Royce knows me well enough to know I call it as I see it. So I called it and you checked it out! Good Steven! Now you get to save your money not having to find every condeser company in Canada to prove your point. I guess I saved you time and $$$ in your search to really derail this post or are you really going to purchase one or are you just here to try to beat this post down:confused: I do not think your that determined to kill it before it's born or are you? This is what determens what is the best bang for your buck. Let's see what happens time will tell. I am also here to answer questions to the best of my abilities. This is a real live decision we all must make for ourselves. Thanks Payton for stealing the post.:rolleyes: I will still list this for Royce. Make your own choices. Life is about choices we make every single day some choices are better than others we have all made good and bad choices. Making a choice from good research and having the facts and courage to place ones self under scrutiny in a public forum were there are going to be some that will do one thing, and others may do something else. I think we have to see what's best for each one of us we need to have something to compare things to. I would like to see if this 2 core condenser will or will not be right for everyone. The jury is still out on this one. Lets see what happens as we go along other will try them and time will tell. I am just the messanger shoot me:eek: but not the creator of this thread. Good work everyone.
Have a good week end...It's a good discussion Thanks Royce for your effort to bring good things to us all.:) :cool:

victor malvar
05-20-2006, 05:18 AM
If you read this post you will see that George Davenport used a 2 core unit but found that it was not up to the task.:eek: :rolleyes: :D

The 3 core unit was much better suited to the task.:D :cool:

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19223&highlight=aircon

I read the post awhile back maybe a year ago! Why do you think I brought it up...I wrote to George about this conderser :p ;) :cool:
Come on Steve :rolleyes: :eek: ;)
Take it easy life is just like a box of chocolates you never know what your going to get until you open it. "Forrest Gump"!

Later........

92strokedbird
05-20-2006, 08:37 AM
You mentioned that George used a 2 core unit with good results,not so.George used a 3 core unit from Aircon and found that it was the best possible solution without giving up air conditioning performance.I am just posting what George found,dont we want the best performance?

I have tried to buy a Aircon unit from someone who had a spare,so since i cant get a 3 row core unit.I might as well get one made,so others here are also interested.I will try to help out those people as well and let them buy them straight from the manufacturer

Payton that company went out of business.

victor malvar
05-20-2006, 02:59 PM
Hey There you are,

You're right about everything Aircon is out of Biz? Wow that's not a good for Aircon! Nor us trying to find the perfect condenser for our cars. We want the same thing!!! Listen real well. I spoke about Aircon before you even knew about it so being up front and fair is all I was doing by mentioning George's condenser. Whether a 2 core 3 core who cares just as long as it does a good job!. What's important here is that we all want the AC condenser that will work best. These that Royce is trying to help us with also had to be refitted for the SC so there was extra work being done to these from what I understand. We all want to install the best condenser for our SC's. These were also being shipped from the Manufacturer. I was not doing anything else except taking the orders, faxing the company and then have them shipped. I hope you do find the perfect AC condenser for our cars. . How long before you will have this done this summer or next?

A friend asked me to take over this post for him because his job wouldn't allow him the time. That's all. I am not dead set on any AC condenser. We just want to use the best one just like everyone on this thread and club. Here are some pictures for everyone to see. Let's quit the back and forth and find what works best. I think I said that testemonials would determine the fate of this condenser. I am ready to help find one. I think you have chosen to find it so by all means.... Champ find it, intall it, test it, and then post the results for us all to see and then we can all make an educated decision. "Carry on Troop"! Your point man now. Payton can sell them or whoever finds the resolution to this condenser issue. Mine still works fine. I will only change it when I am sure the one I am going to instal is the best one for the job. Why tear the car apart to place something that will not work ..... No point in that!!!. I am taking the day off. I have an aution going on so I have to scoot.
Keep up the good work. I am trying my best to help find a good solution if I can as well.
Later on.....

kentv6
05-20-2006, 10:19 PM
My short condensor still working great had it dyno last wedsday with double intercooler temp stayed around 88 intercooler is wide open. Thanks again
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XxSlowpokexX
05-31-2006, 12:14 PM
Just an FYI..Condenser performance has more to do with just the amount of rows. Making it thicker does not mean more efficient. The real way to test this is for someone to install it. The fact is weather it be three or two core a smaller condensor will nto be as efficient as a larger thinner one unless teh core itself is more efficient. And that has to do with tubing and fin size and thickness.

92strokedbird
05-31-2006, 01:19 PM
Yes i just got back from a place who is working with me to build a shortened condenser.I will post back when i have news from him.

wakinyantanka
05-31-2006, 10:07 PM
Just a note to catch up with everyone. I asked Victor to help me out with these condensors cause I do not have the time. I see from the posts that there is a concern about effectiveness of these condensors. I have sold a few and all who purchased have bragged to how well they work. Some in Florida heat and humidity. If that is not a strong testament I don't know what is.
Anyways, my own specs are as follows: air temperature at the vent while idling was at 34*F, this was with an ambient air temp of 84*F with humidity in the 65% range. Any R134A system with those numbers is a very good system. I work with automobiles all day long and see very few with that kind of efficiency.
So to all who want one please contact Victor he is honest and will help anyone. To those who prefer to go another route please do so as it only serves the SC community when we have options. :cool:

Nettlesd
05-31-2006, 11:20 PM
Why did you go with a 2 row core versus the 3 row core? As stated, even George went with a 3 row core so I'm wondering why the 2 row core. Maybe design wise or something that swayed you to go that route?

XxSlowpokexX
06-01-2006, 08:19 AM
Im assuming Goerge went with a three row because thats what aircon reccomended when they specially made these units for our cars. I'd perfer a two row that works as efficiently as a three row as it would allow more airflow through the core which ultimately means better cooling for your car.

Basically if a two core is working in extreme conditions you shouldnt even want a thicker core. Summe ris comming..A few people have these units..Lets see what happens!

92strokedbird
06-01-2006, 05:00 PM
Well i got a reply from the company who can manufacture the aircon condenser.I have been offered a aircon unit as a sample so they can make an exact copy.I am going to get them to make me one so i can install it in my car.I will get back with more news after i pay to get one made.:D

92strokedbird
06-01-2006, 10:56 PM
I misunderstood what someone said to me last night.I would like to know if someone who has a Aircon unit can give me a detailed drawing with all pertinent measurements.I have a copy of the drawing that the Aircon unit was made from but was hoping to have a more detailed one if possible.Maybe something with pictures and measurements,i just want it to be a exact copy and have no fitment issues.

If anyone can help out please pm me.Thanks.

victor malvar
06-02-2006, 01:50 PM
Im assuming Goerge went with a three row because thats what aircon reccomended when they specially made these units for our cars. I'd perfer a two row that works as efficiently as a three row as it would allow more airflow through the core which ultimately means better cooling for your car.

Basically if a two core is working in extreme conditions you shouldnt even want a thicker core. Summe ris comming..A few people have these units..Lets see what happens!


Hi Damon 007 (2007) Good point. I agree with you and I agree with just about everyone here. I think after August or September when it's real Hot then maybe some of the people who wanted a little extra air, they will come to find out it does O.K. If so, then I feel it would be worth a shot for some people...not all. Today's high is 96 degrees but feels more like 100 deg. plus:eek:
It depends on what your priorities are and what your special needs may require or need... I will let Royce keep this going himself. If anyone wants one, I can help or you can get them from his eBay site where he is selling them. I can save eveyone about $10.00. That's is... because I would require that whoever wants one must use our referal link. Then we will do a special listing just for that person. One at a time. Rather than pay eBay for more rent space.
Thanks for all of your assistance. Hope to see you all around soon.
Take it easy Damon!!! See you around and hope to meet you and others some day at a meet or the Shoot out. Hope to meet you too Strokerbird:cool:
See ya!
Victor....

PS..KentV6,Thanks for your input on the condenser and I hope to see you at the "Hot Rod Tour in Orlando or stop by the house anytime.

Doug Williams
05-04-2007, 07:28 PM
I would like to hear some feedback on how this short condenser has worked out for those who have tried it. I am getting ready to put a late model ac system in my car and would like a shortened condenser. This one is the only one that I am finding available now.

95MTSC
05-10-2007, 01:19 PM
I would like to hear some feedback on how this short condenser has worked out for those who have tried it. I am getting ready to put a late model ac system in my car and would like a shortened condenser. This one is the only one that I am finding available now.

Over the winter I replaced my stock condensor on my 95 SC with a replacement for a (ahem) 1986 Ford Bronco II condenser (Ready-Aire #636080 from Advance Auto, roughly $99). I got the tip here at sccoa where somebody discovered it was roughly the desired size. I tried it out for the first time today, and it seems to be working.

It is much smaller than stock, and doesn't block the stock IC at all. However, you do need to fab mounting brackets, and although the connectors do plug into the stock lines, they are a few inches too short, so I had to do some bending of the stock hard lines to reach and they're still a bit shorter than I'd like them to be. But hey, it works.

XxSlowpokexX
05-10-2007, 01:33 PM
Any pictures..How thick?

95MTSC
05-10-2007, 01:46 PM
Any pictures..How thick?

Damon, this page has a diagram with the dimensions:

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=EVP&MfrPartNumber=636080

XxSlowpokexX
05-10-2007, 02:19 PM
Thanks..Useful information here

Doug Williams
05-10-2007, 10:12 PM
That is some useful info! I have also heard that the condensors from Explorers from somewhere around 1994's will also work. I was going to check some out at a local junkyard and see if it looks like it would work.

fast Ed
05-11-2007, 11:12 AM
That's what we used in my 95 recently. 86 - 88 Bronco II is the application. I used a Four Seasons 54386.


cheers
Ed N.

victor malvar
05-11-2007, 01:23 PM
C@@L !!! Thanks Ed.......

Kurt K
05-11-2007, 01:35 PM
That's what we used in my 95 recently. 86 - 88 Bronco II is the application. I used a Four Seasons 54386.


cheers
Ed N.
Like you need AC north of the border :rolleyes: :p

fast Ed
05-11-2007, 02:12 PM
It was almost 80 here yesterday !! ;) :D

We tend to get pretty humid weather in July and August, sometimes in the 90s and very sticky. I like my A/C in the Bird ... those are the days my Cougar usually doesn't get driven very far.


cheers
Ed N.

Pablo94SC
05-11-2007, 08:53 PM
I was telling Ken Seegers about the 86 Bronco II condensor the other day on the phone. Glad to know I told him the right year.

Nettlesd
05-12-2007, 10:40 AM
Phone Sex?

sail7seas
05-12-2007, 10:58 AM
It was almost 80 here yesterday !! ;) :D

We tend to get pretty humid weather in July and August, sometimes in the 90s and very sticky. I like my A/C in the Bird ... those are the days my Cougar usually doesn't get driven very far.


cheers
Ed N.

My A/C mod works great here in GA:
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64624&highlight=condenser

Parallel Flow condensers are approximately 1/3rd more efficient than a standard OEM Tube & Fin condenser. www.ackits.com

Pablo94SC
05-15-2007, 01:54 PM
Phone Sex?

No thanks.

XxSlowpokexX
05-15-2007, 03:34 PM
That type of cendensor is the way to go and cheaper then a factory replacement or the typical short condensors sold. Big problem is getting the proper lines setuop for fitment

fast Ed
05-15-2007, 03:37 PM
I was telling Ken Seegers about the 86 Bronco II condensor the other day on the phone. Glad to know I told him the right year.

Looking again, it's actually 86 - 89 Bronco II, and also 86 - 89 Ranger.


cheers
Ed N.

gldiii
05-15-2007, 05:04 PM
If this link will work:

http://info.rockauto.com/GoDan/Detail2.html?www.pliii.com/productcatalog/catalog.asp?partnum=636080

It has the dimensions of the Ready-Aire part and also a large cross reference of part numbers.

Some Rock Auto pricing here:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1106132,parttype,6708

The Ready-Aire is a lot less expensive than the Four Seasons, but I don't know what differences (if any) there are between the two products.

fast Ed
05-15-2007, 05:12 PM
That works George. I used the Rock Auto site for measurements as well to compare, after a few people mentioned the Bronco II part as being a possibility.

It's 83 degrees here this afternoon, I'll have to give the car a try to see how well it cools with the smaller condensor. We used a Derale fan (http://www.derale.com/tornado-fan.html) in the 12" size, as a pusher in front of the condensor as well. Having a good fan on the condensor is important for it's operating efficiency.


cheers
Ed N.