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Thomas A
03-30-2006, 01:56 PM
Please check Page 4 for Pricing Details! 5-4-06
Pictures on Page 5! 5-25-06

Hi guys, just wanted to let you know of a project I am working on. I am in the process of having a company put together some stainless brake lines for our cars. These will be D.O.T. approved, and will be a very nice product when finished. We are still in the first stages of this, but hope to have a product ready to go soon. We will be working on:

1989 - 1992 Front & Rear Disc Thunderbird Cougar
1. Doug W - 1989 SC
2. Trife86 - 1989 SC
3. Jason W - 1990 SC
4. Joe B - 1990 SC
5. Eric W - 1990 XR7
6. Rod M - 1990 XR7
7. Mike H - 1990 SC
8. YT90SC - 1990 SC
9. Andy M - 1991 T-Bird
10. Ken S - 1992 SC
11. Chris S - 1990 SC
12. Bryan K - 1989 SC
13. Dan C - 1990 SC
14. Mike L - 1990 SC
15. Victor M - 1989 SC
16. Victor M - 1992 SC
17. Grant F - 1989 SC
18. supertbird89 - 1989 SC
19. Will S - 1992 SC
20. Greg C - 1989 XR7
21. Chris P - 1989 SC
22. Duffy F - 1992 SC
23. Robert P - 1989 SC
24. Ryan M - 1991 SC
25. Victor M - SC
26. Victor M - SC
27. Thomas E - 1990 SC
28. Rich M - 1991 SC
29. Rob L - 1991 SC
30.

1993 - 1997 Front & Rear Disc Thunderbird Cougar
1. Thomas A - 1993 SC
2. Fast Ed N - 1995 SC
3. Mike H - 1993 SC
4. Mitch B - 1996 T-Bird
5. YT90SC - 1995 T-Bird
6. AEDM8 - 1997 Cougar
7. Mike I - 1994 SC
8. Flip T - 1993 SC
9. Pablo94SC - 1994 SC
10. Victor M - 1993 LX
11. black95sc - 1995 SC
12. Will S - 1995 LX
13. Greg C - 1994 SC
14. T-Bird_Fan - 1997 LX
15. Brett M - 1993 SC
16. Mike8842 - 1995 LX
17.
18.
19.
20.

1993 - 1998 Front & Rear Lincoln Mark VIII
1. Thomas A - 1997 LSC
2. Scott M - 1995 MK8
3. Frank - 1998 MK8
4. Matt B - MK8
5. Keith K - 1997 MK8
6. Stephen G - 1998 LSC
7. Micheal S - 1998 LSC
8. Cecil S - 1998 MK8
9.
10.

Unkown Make & Model
DirtyDog Allen

I would like to see how many people might be interested. I do not have pricing yet, and that will obviously determine whether or not people will be interested. However, assuming the price is reasonable, let me know what you think. Thanks.

Thomas

007_SuperCoupe
03-30-2006, 01:58 PM
Larger capacity brake lines or just stock replacement lines???

Thomas A
03-30-2006, 02:03 PM
Stock like replacements. The biggest benefit is you will not get hose expansion like you do on the rubber lines, so all the pressure will be going to your brakes. Also, they are mandatory for many open road racing classes, and should stand up to adverse conditions much better then the rubber ones, as they will not dry out and crack or get soft.

Thomas

PHRANQUY
03-30-2006, 02:07 PM
You know I am in. The sooner they are available the better, as i am still goign to try to go to the HPDE at MAM....

trife86
03-30-2006, 02:16 PM
Im intrested depending on price

Dirtyd0g
03-30-2006, 02:30 PM
I am interested as well. I tried for several months to get the goodridge ones, even paid for them twice only to get my money sent back to me.
Alan

Jason Wild
03-30-2006, 02:43 PM
I might be up for a set if there ready in time.

joenintiesc
03-30-2006, 02:49 PM
I have interest also.

xr7rocket
03-30-2006, 03:14 PM
Also interested

racecougar
03-30-2006, 03:19 PM
As long as the price is reasonable, I'll be in for at least one set.

-Rod

fast Ed
03-30-2006, 03:53 PM
Thomas, I'd be looking at a set, price-dependent of course. :)


cheers
Ed N.

Mike8675309
03-30-2006, 06:01 PM
Count me in. 1990 set and a 1993 set.

Mitchblack
03-30-2006, 06:04 PM
I am interested. 96 TBird. Please advise on cost and availability.

Thank you

Mitch

Nettlesd
03-30-2006, 10:22 PM
What's a brake line?

YT90SC
03-30-2006, 11:04 PM
I am interested. Cost for a 90 and a 95?

Mikessupercoupe
03-31-2006, 03:01 AM
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ONES FOR 94 SC. PRICE WHEN AVAILABLE PLS.

THANKS
MIKE:cool:

Flip
03-31-2006, 07:59 AM
Put me down for a set, 93 SC.

Ken Seegers
03-31-2006, 11:33 AM
Thomas,
I am interested. Put me down for 92SC.

Thanks
Ken

sail7seas
03-31-2006, 12:50 PM
I am interested for a 1990 SC auto.

SuperChicken89
03-31-2006, 01:16 PM
I'm interested also dependant upon price.

Bryan

Tony8470
03-31-2006, 02:02 PM
Interested. Depends on price.

Thomas A
03-31-2006, 10:54 PM
Thanks for all the interest in these! I'm sure with a group of 30 or more, we should be able to get some pretty good pricing. I hope to have an answer on final pricing and design by April 15th.

Thomas

ThunderGodRacin
03-31-2006, 11:05 PM
I'd be in for a set 89 T-Bird SC. :cool:

victor malvar
04-01-2006, 03:17 PM
Hi Thomas,

It's been awhile hope your doing well.

Count me in for a 1989,1992 SC's ( But one is a 1993 V-8 If Possible.)

Thanks Thomas

Regards

Victor and Diane

Nettlesd
04-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Thomas,

You're a life saver. Just this morning I started the car and put it in reverse and promptly blew out all four brake lines.

black95sc
04-05-2006, 01:19 AM
Thomas,

Thanks for putting this together. I have 95 T-Bird SC and I am interested.

Thanks!

gspacerant
04-05-2006, 09:13 AM
edit: cancel that

supertbird89
04-05-2006, 02:04 PM
Very interested got an 89 let me know thanks.

Mercutio
04-05-2006, 10:39 PM
I'm in for a set for a 92SC and a set for a 95SC.

No one has mentioned the mounting bracketry yet, but that was a serious flaw with the Goodridge lines. I blew up a front Goodridge line because it had no mounting bracket and it rubbed on the sway bar. I recommend we at least ask them about brackets.

Thomas A
04-06-2006, 12:02 AM
Brackets are being taken into consideration. I don't know what exactly the final product will include.

Thomas

Greg Coleman
04-14-2006, 01:27 PM
I'm interrested in a set for my 89xr7 and 94 SC

unreng
04-15-2006, 12:45 AM
set for a 1989 SC.

Chris
Reno, NV

Duffy Floyd
04-16-2006, 01:58 PM
Interested in a set for 92 SC. Would be nice if the lines are made perhaps an 1" longer than stock for those who have lowering springs.

SCMakeiv
04-16-2006, 08:12 PM
I would also be very interested in a set for 93 bird. Any more word on how they are going, since you hoped the middle of april would be close to being done?

89FORCEFED95
04-16-2006, 09:51 PM
Add another set for a 89SC

thebigslide
04-16-2006, 10:58 PM
Brake hoses, or brake lines? I would be interested in SS brake lines and hoses... Which is it you are having made? I would be interested in a set for a 91.

Thomas A
04-17-2006, 12:03 AM
I don't remember specifying any dates on these. I did call for an update last Thursday, but didn't get ahold of who I needed to. I will be calling again tommorow to see what the status is.

This would be for just the brake hoses from the calipers to the mounting block on the car. Thanks.

Thomas

Thomas A
04-19-2006, 01:59 AM
The OEM samples are in the engineering department currently. Hopefully we will have a quote soon!

Thomas

Thomas A
04-26-2006, 11:21 AM
I WILL HAVE PRICING INFO TODAY!!!! :eek:

These lines will include mounting brackets also. Once we have a price, and assuming it's not incredibly high, a test set of lines will be made for each group of cars. As soon as they are on and everything checks out, we will be ready for orders. Our minium buy in for each type is only 10 sets, so we shouldn't have any problem making this happen. I will update the post with pricing as soon as I know it.

Thanks for hanging in there with me on these. I really think they will be worth the wait!

Thomas

79Blazer
04-27-2006, 08:25 PM
Update?:confused: :confused:

Jason Wild
04-27-2006, 08:32 PM
I'm willing to test a set of a 90 bird.

mike884_2
04-27-2006, 10:13 PM
Depending upon price, would be interested in some for a 95 LX with 4 wheel disc

Thomas A
04-28-2006, 12:51 AM
Sorry guys, I was promised a price quote by the end of the day on Tuesday, and the owner had to leave early or something. I will call them tommorow and expect to have a price nailed down.

Thomas

victor malvar
04-28-2006, 02:50 AM
Please count us in for four SC's a 1989, 1990, 1991,1992, 1993.

Thank you!

Good Job!

Please let us know what the final amount is so we can get it to you on time.

Victor, Diane and Assoc.

nanatothesixth
04-29-2006, 03:47 PM
im interestedin a set!

RichM
05-03-2006, 09:42 AM
Interested, depending on price. For a 1991.

Rob91
05-03-2006, 10:21 AM
I'm interrested in a set

Thomas A
05-04-2006, 06:38 PM
PRICING!

$123.31 Per Set

All kits will include 4 hoses, crush washers, our style brackets and clips for mounting, and hoses will go all the way to the calipers with banjo bolts.

All we need are a minium of 10 sets. I will assume at that price it shouldn't be an issue based on the response so far. That price is set for 60 days. I will be taking the next step in this process immediately which will be to get a test fit of each type on a car. I do already have volunteers lined up for each, but if somthing changes I will let you know.

Feel free to post any feedback on this or any suggestions. This will happen! No idle talk of a GP or empty promises!

Thomas

Flip
05-04-2006, 06:47 PM
Thomas, I'm still an board for a 93 SC set. Hope the tests runs well, thanks for all your leg work on these.
Flip

Mike8675309
05-04-2006, 08:03 PM
Sign me up for a set for my 1993.

sail7seas
05-04-2006, 08:20 PM
Please add me to your list.
Thank you in advance.
Chris Stater
Atlanta, GA

SuperChicken89
05-04-2006, 11:01 PM
YES!

I'm still onboard for a 1989 set :D Just let me know when and where to send the money or Paypal!

Bryan

Thomas A
05-05-2006, 12:07 AM
At this point I will stop adding names to the original list in this post. Once the test lines have been verified to fit correctly, I will start an official GP thread in the appropiate forum. Thanks for everyones support so far on this!

I will post pictures and more news in this thread as it becomes avialable.

Thomas

Kurt K
05-05-2006, 12:23 AM
Hey Thomas, are there going to be considerations for early cars that have been converted to '93 & up spindles and big brakes? As I think is already mentioned earlier in this thread, the early and late hard lines have different threads.

Thomas A
05-05-2006, 12:41 AM
Good question Kurt. As far as the threads, there will be an application for '89-'92 and '93+ one the mounting side. As far as I could tell, the length was pretty much the same, so newer spindles or not, it shouldn't matter. Correct me if I am wrong on that.

The SS lines will be made slightly longer then OE also to accomadate lowered cars.

Thomas

Kurt K
05-05-2006, 08:17 AM
Good question Kurt. As far as the threads, there will be an application for '89-'92 and '93+ one the mounting side. As far as I could tell, the length was pretty much the same, so newer spindles or not, it shouldn't matter. Correct me if I am wrong on that.

The SS lines will be made slightly longer then OE also to accomadate lowered cars.

Thomas

Well, the factory lines did work on my car, but it was very tight (I would not have wanted to do any hard, sharp cornering for fear of finding the length limit). Plus I had to cut one of the mounting blocks that the banjo bolt goes thru so the line would "clock" the correct direction (some people grind the caliper). The stainless lines that I have now are longer and have a round end on them for the banjo bolt.

I was more concerned with added length for 13" brakes.

PHRANQUY
05-05-2006, 08:44 AM
Well, I'm in, but I think you already knew that...:cool:

MaddMartigan
05-07-2006, 02:16 PM
I think I am in too. I'll keep on the lookout for the GP.

Thomas A
05-10-2006, 02:09 PM
UPDATED 5-10-06

The test lines are on there way. I hope to have them all on test vehicles and have the GP opened up by the end of next week.

Speaking with them, I might have to order all the lines myself and sell them back to you guys. I'm not sure on the full details just yet as to how they want to do it. Either way, I'll get something figured out.

Thomas

Nettlesd
05-10-2006, 05:35 PM
UPDATED 5-10-06
Speaking with them, I might have to order all the lines myself and sell them back to you guys. Thomas

Well, if that's the case then put me down for like 25 sets. You know I'm good for it.

victor malvar
05-13-2006, 01:59 AM
Hi Thomas

We still want 3 to 5 sets...I am not sure if should order more for the 1989 to 1990 1991 might fit the same? Rotors I know that they do vary in most years 1989 to 1991 are similar except the right rear wheel...
I am just curios about this... So I know how many to order from you total. You are testing diffrent years so I guess that's what I will need to be able to order accordinly. Thanks for all your doing for all of us... Good Job!!!

Later on.

Thanks I will wait for the results.

Victor....

Tbirdsc Colonel
05-18-2006, 01:41 PM
Put me down for a set of 95's
PLZ
N thx

Tazer999
05-19-2006, 05:18 PM
Forgive me if you already posted this info, but when will payment be due, and how will payment be handled? Will you be able to accept credit card?

I am tentaively in for the 89-92

Rick Mink
05-19-2006, 10:07 PM
Im down for a set. how do I get funds to you?? I upgrade to 93 spindle for the pbr brake upgrade so I guess I neesd a set for 93, right??

Rick

Thomas A
05-19-2006, 10:10 PM
At this point I will stop adding names to the original list in this post. Once the test lines have been verified to fit correctly, I will start an official GP thread in the appropiate forum.
No, you want to get the set for the year of car you have, regardless of any spindle or caliper upgrades. The difference is on the mounting point of the car.

Thomas

quick35th
05-23-2006, 05:47 PM
Thomas,

Can I still get in on this? I need to know exactly what it includes cause the car I need the for looks to have almost no brake lines on it at all :eek: For some stupid reason Lawrence thought it be cool to remove everything out of the car and not tell me where they are or rather give me everything to put the car back together.

I have a '92 SC that I think I will have to put a non ABS master cylinder in it for simplisity and its got '93+ front spindles with '00 Cobra R four piston Brembo calipers on it.

What a head ache :(

Shane

Thomas A
05-23-2006, 07:10 PM
All kits will include 4 hoses, crush washers, our style brackets and clips for mounting, and hoses will go all the way to the calipers with banjo bolts.


At this point I will stop adding names to the original list in this post. Once the test lines have been verified to fit correctly, I will start an official GP thread in the appropiate forum.

Thomas
..........

Toms-SC
05-23-2006, 07:23 PM
and and and and?

Thomas A
05-23-2006, 07:25 PM
and

I will post pictures and more news in this thread as it becomes avialable.

Thomas

Duffy Floyd
05-24-2006, 03:14 AM
Hope I am being counted as one who is "in" on this GP?1992 SC.

Thomas A
05-25-2006, 02:53 PM
5-25-06 The Test Lines Arrived Today!!

I hope to have all the test lines installed very soon and have ordering ready by June 1st. As soon as they are all verified to work correctly, I will start a new thread in the GP section.

http://www.gmmodernmuscle.com/fileupload/uploads/ss_lines.jpg

Thomas

quick35th
05-25-2006, 03:13 PM
Those look very nice Thomas. Hopefully they work out.

Shane

Thomas A
05-27-2006, 12:53 AM
I started installing them on my Mark VIII, and so far so good. Hope to have them finished up tommorow.

Thomas

victor malvar
05-27-2006, 09:32 AM
Hi Thomas,

They look great. I need to speak with you or please email us.The SC which we have with the lowest mileage. We plan to slowly start restoring some of our birds. Not a mayor restoration but making them shine a little more than what they are now. I want to order only for the ones we plan to keep or possibly sell down the road when the time is right. We're glad you found these.:)
I left you a PM
in case you have not read it please do and reply as soon as you have a minute or two. Actually when you have the results will be just fine.

Thanks again!

Have a good Memorial day to you and to all the other members.

Drive careful & stay safe!

Victor and Diane

quick35th
05-30-2006, 02:03 PM
Hey does anyone know if Goodridge made stainles lines for the rear of our cars or did they only do the fronts? I found a set of them with my race car for the front when I was digging threw the parts piles the other day.

Thomas, can I get stainless lines for the rear only if I need them or do I have to get all four?

Shane

Thomas A
05-30-2006, 02:25 PM
These will be available as sets of 4 only.

I have them installed on my Lincoln, just need to finish bleeding them and making sure everything is okay. I'm meeting up with Doug to get him the lines to try on his '89 SC, and hopefully can get the '93 - '97 lines installed tommorow or Thursday, so we can be ready for orders.

Thomas

Dahoopd
05-30-2006, 02:50 PM
No, you want to get the set for the year of car you have, regardless of any spindle or caliper upgrades. The difference is on the mounting point of the car.

Thomas


Thomas,

I am assuming this is a stupid question. But, will these work with the PBR calipers. I know there is a slight modification to the stock line when switching to the PBR's but will the mod still need to be done with these.

Thomas A
05-30-2006, 03:00 PM
Yes, they will work with PBR calipers, and shoudn't have any issues with Bear, WillWood, etc. In fact, no modification is required for the PRB calipers like it is with the stock lines. The different mounting style easily clears all the sides of the caliper. I am installing Cobra PRB calipers on my Mark VIII, so I have verified this first hand!

Thomas

Thomas A
05-30-2006, 04:48 PM
http://www.gmmodernmuscle.com/fileupload/uploads/ss_lines_front.jpg

http://www.gmmodernmuscle.com/fileupload/uploads/ss_lines_rear.jpg

Thomas

quick35th
05-30-2006, 04:50 PM
Those look very good Thomas. Keep us updated.

Shane

PHRANQUY
05-30-2006, 05:00 PM
Thomas, let me know as soon as these are available, in fact, call me....I need brake lines before I'll consider competing in any more Auto-x events this year.....

Thomas A
05-31-2006, 03:19 PM
Got the '93 - '97 Front Lines installed today. Ran out of time to do the rears, so we'll have to get those on tommorow.

http://www.gmmodernmuscle.com/fileupload/uploads/ss_line_installed.jpg

http://www.gmmodernmuscle.com/fileupload/uploads/ss_old_lines.jpg

Thomas

Douglas Walker
06-02-2006, 07:55 PM
Ill get my new lines installed saturday morning. Ill post some pics when Im done.
Tom thanks for doing all the leg work to get these made up
Doug

YT90SC
06-07-2006, 10:15 AM
any new info on when they will be ready for sale?

Thomas A
06-07-2006, 01:05 PM
Doug had some stuff come up this past weekend, so he didn't get a chance to install them as he had hoped.

Thomas

Douglas Walker
06-14-2006, 07:47 PM
I have installed the front brake lines with no issues. Didnt have to cut the bracket for the abs because it is already seperate. I did drill new mount holes for the new line bracket. As for the back, the driver rear i needed to buy a 3 way block to make it work. The block cost around $11. Its on order be here on friday.

Tom if the block works ill order what u need to send out with the 89-92 sets.

Other than that all looks good

Doug

Thomas A
06-14-2006, 08:13 PM
You have a PM.

Thomas

Toms-SC
06-15-2006, 10:55 PM
So, we have an ETA?

Thomas A
06-15-2006, 11:24 PM
No.

Thomas

MaddMartigan
06-18-2006, 07:50 PM
No.

Thomas

Apparently I'm not getting notified consistently when this thread gets a reply. I do want a set of these though if the cost is still around $125 for the four.

Melon
06-18-2006, 10:23 PM
Last I heard, he wasn't taking orders yet anyway. IIRC, after all the cars have past the "testing stage", then he was going to start a new thread with all the buying details.

-Melon

MaddMartigan
06-19-2006, 06:13 AM
Last I heard, he wasn't taking orders yet anyway. IIRC, after all the cars have past the "testing stage", then he was going to start a new thread with all the buying details.

-Melon

Ok, cool. I'll try to keep an eye out for that.

quick35th
06-19-2006, 03:04 PM
I hope we find out soon cause I am in need of some break lines bad.

Shane

Thomas A
06-20-2006, 01:42 AM
It has been a while, so I feel it is time for an update. We have run into a few minor issues with the rear lines. I don't think it will take much to resolve this, and hopefully not add too much additional cost. There might be a slight price increase from the original price for the '89 - '92 lines. I will find out soon.

I plan to discuss the few issues that have come up with the manufacturer tommorow, and will hopefully be able to resolve them quickly.

Thanks for everyones support on these. This will happen! I talked with Doug tonight and he was very happy with the way his test lines felt. He said he noticed an immediate difference. This is a good product, and I think everyone will be happy with the end results. It will be worth the wait.

As mentioned earlier, I will not be adding any more name to the list. Please do not send me PM's asking when these will be ready, or if you can order them yet. I will update this thread when they are, and start a new thread in the GP forum.

Thomas

Thomas A
06-20-2006, 05:08 PM
Talked with the manufacturer today. It isn't going to be a big issue to get the few things fixed that we need to. He is sending me out a few new parts tommorow to swap in that should take care of things. I'll let you know what I find out.

Thomas

PHRANQUY
06-21-2006, 12:29 AM
Sounds good Thomas. I'm getting anxious to get thse...I'm not attending any Auto-x events this year until I have the brake issues figured out, and i think this will help greatly.

rrgrasse
06-22-2006, 10:41 AM
I need a set for a '91 5-speed SC.

Thanks, Rob Grasse

victor malvar
06-22-2006, 09:42 PM
Thanks Thomas,

Understood!!!

dklitzke
06-27-2006, 12:49 PM
I have two '95 SCs and you can add me to the list. SS Brake lines will be a great upgrade to these cars.
;)

Don

Thomas A
06-27-2006, 06:14 PM
As mentioned earlier, I will not be adding any more name to the list. Please do not send me PM's asking when these will be ready, or if you can order them yet. I will update this thread when they are, and start a new thread in the GP forum.
...
Thomas

Thomas A
07-09-2006, 03:03 PM
Watch for an update coming shortly......... :D

Thomas

dklitzke
07-11-2006, 01:25 PM
Thomas,

As soon as they are tested and made available, i will buy two sets for my 1995 SCs. Thanks.

dklitzke

:D

MaddMartigan
07-13-2006, 12:32 PM
Be sure and update this thread with a link to the new GP thread you start. :)

Thomas A
07-17-2006, 05:50 PM
The details on the lines have been taken care of. I am in the process of finalizing how the GP details will work, and hope to have a GP Thread started by Tuesday/Wednesday of this week.

Thomas

Thomas A
07-19-2006, 01:34 PM
ORDER INFO WILL BE ADDED TO THE GP FORUM TONIGHT!!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D

Thomas

Thomas A
07-19-2006, 09:38 PM
GP THREAD IS OPEN!!! :eek:

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?p=548354#post548354

Thomas

RichM
07-28-2006, 11:07 PM
Time to step up to the commitments made on this thread.