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[rzibilske77]

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[rzibilske77]

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[nick62087]

do you have any pics?
I have money again :)
-Nick

nick62087 at verizon.net

[jer_89SC]

Do you have any pics of the rims, and do they come with tires?

[V8Supercoupe]

http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78141

Supposed to be getting resolved Sunday....We'll see.

[ddw350]

are they still for sale???

[V8Supercoupe]

(edit by admin)

Click on the link above.:mad:

[ddw350]

i have a cousin in houston,he would pick them up in person,after a visuial inspection of course,hes down around that area like 3 months a year..does something with power companys,hes willing to drive the company vehicle anywhere..on thier gas of course!

[V8Supercoupe]

Very good idea.

Perhaps when he buys the rims, I can get my money back!

[ddw350]

how many people bought these through the forums? 2 or 3??

[SlowProject]

2 People that we know of.
I happen to be the 2nd buyer, I've paid for them also.

[dwinthrup]

i guess iam the 3rd po'ed guy i guess that's why they say if it's too good to be true it not

[ddw350]

i see them for sale on the tccoa also...huh...

[SlowProject]

:(

Still waiting for my refund.

[ddw350]

if you pay through paypal..dont they refund you in certain situations?? cant you cancal the transaction on your credit card...if you have capitol one credit card..call them and explain you were taken and they will "back charge" who ever ripped you,almost like canceling it...i imagine someone pays for it eventually?? probably by charging fees and stuff we dont know about...i did this twice,both times they took the charge off my bill.once was a depth finder from a certain magizine,claimed it was the greatest thing ever,turns out it was a damn joke,coulnt resolve it with them,gave me the ol"you bough it ,its yours" talk...other time was at a local detail shop,they sucked at cleaning my dads truck[it was a b-day present] they said id have to repay if i wanted it better,called capitol one,next thing you know it was off tyhe card,and it was billed BACK TO THEM!! im tellin you,you just cant rip people off anymore,they wont stand for it,especially when the credit card company is on you side...for once....

[V8Supercoupe]

can't charge you back if the money isn't there.....I don't think. They need to get the money from someone.

If they went to chargeback the place that detailed your 'ol man's truck and the dough wasn't in the account, I think it would just bounce.

I am still wating to hear from Paypal if this is going to clear or not. It's still a pending refund.

[ddw350]

im not sure how it works really...only thing i know is that i wasnt charged,which was good for me,i figure they get money from "annual fees" and other such things...keep us posted on your refund situation..

[SlowProject]

I now have a pending refund.

I made a claim w/Paypal this morning, and :rolleyes:
what do you know 6 hours later, an email from paypal.

Yet still haven't heard anything from the seller.

[dwinthrup]

i haven't heard anything from seller and still pending

[V8Supercoupe]

same,,,,,, and mine has been pending for awhile.

My refund started on Sat. I assume there needs to be a couple business days for this stuff to clear. Weekends don't count to my knowledge.

[V8Supercoupe]

From Paypal:

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any
funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement,
recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in
question if they become available in the seller's account in the future
and
will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may
include
issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the account.
Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors to determine when to
take
action, including member complaints. Due to privacy laws, we cannot
discuss
the details of any action taken. We hope you understand our policy and
that
it assures you that you are safe using PayPal.

We hope you understand our policy and
that
it assures you that you are safe using PayPal.

I feel so safe!

You guys can PM me or email me to go over other options.

[seawalkersee]

I hope you guys get your money back...I can not stand pricks like that.

Chris

[the-big-e]

I bought a 94/95 blower that he had for sale and everything went fine.....:cool:

Maybe he is out cleaning up meth labs......:confused:

Uh.....Sorry.....

Wrong seller........:p

[V8Supercoupe]

We'll see. I have calls into the PD's down there, so hopefully things can be sorted out.
Said thing is, he has admitted to blowing the money on other things, and now everyone else is left pooned.

[dwinthrup]

yeah i got the same your screwed e-mail and iam down right pissed :mad:

[dwinthrup]

the best part is he checks in here ever other day to see what we are saying about him.

[V8Supercoupe]

the best part is he checks in here ever other day to see what we are saying about him.

Actually, the best part will be getting my money back. There was no need to go screwing us like this.

I have been in touch with the authorities in his area. I also managed to get some of his personal info now from various sources and will be forwarding all of it tomorrow. Along with it will be all of the correspondance between he and I.
I'll be looking to press charges as well as recoup the money I sent him if he still doesn't clear things with me. The detectives I spoke with were actually pretty cool. so we'll see.

If he is reading this, it'd be wise to just end it and send payment. It would be a lot easier to save some face now, then have the det.'s show up at his house involving other people.

[jer_89SC]

I've been taking with V8Supercoupe about this for a while, but I haven't posted in this forum yet.

I also purchased the same set of rims, and recieved the same letter from paypal, saying that they decided the claim in my favour, but still don't get any money.

I am really frustrated and do not know what the hell to do.

[Sandmanownz]

You may want to look it up, but anymore doing things such as this on the internet is just as bad as robbing someone’s house, without the breaking and entering of course. My suggestion would be get together with everyone who has prove of payment to Robert have all documents in hand and present it to Law Enforcement. I would have to also say that with it being in different states it probably falls under some type of Federal Jurisdiction. Looks like he has gotten atlest 5 of you, probably more from other sites unknown, so the minimum he has stolen is $3000.00. But I don’t see that everyone going to separate local police offices is going to get any action taken as it will be presented as a $600 theft (Local police isn’t going to listen to what happened to someone 1000miles away on your club's site) rather than a $3000+ theft and proof that he has been doing this to others.. This guy is just like all of the other crooks/thief. He has a taste of what he can do/make off of being a "internet crook". If it’s not stopped, this wont be the last time this happens. The best suggestion as to who to present this to would be the Texas State Police, This guy's full name from the members page is Robert Zibilske, I just looked a Zibilske up on whitepages.com and they said wrong number when I called and asked for him, I wouldn’t have my number in the phone book ether if I stole money from people in the internet.. Anyway you also probably should get a hold of this guy below who from the tccoa site says he is freights with Robert, probably could get you some contact information. Take it from myself who has had to collect money from family owned apartments from trash such as Robert before, go threw the "great" legal system... It will take probably 6-8 months, but if you have the time, eventually you'll be getting monthly payments for your money, provided directly from Roberts' paycheck. Ok we'll I've rambled enough. Hope it gets resolved and Robert gets stopped.


speed95 @ tccoa.com wrote:

"Guys I am truly sorry to hear this. I have been friends with Robert for awhile now and have never known him to be a bad guy. I cant believe im reading what was done to everyone on both of these forums. I will try to get in touch with him to see whats going on and will try to help everyone get their money back. Again im appalled to hear this news and will try to get ahold of him."

Chris


Hope for the best,

Mike Orender
Sandmanownz

[seawalkersee]

You guys should have just bought my rims and saved the headache....and got a REAL SET of NIB Cobra Rs.

Chris

[V8Supercoupe]

Chris if I saw yours at the time, I probably would have. There was really no warning with Robert either....obviously if I knew he was going to screw me I wouldn't have bothered with him.:mad:

[seawalkersee]

You still got that whipple? We can work out SOME sort of deal...

Chris

[V8Supercoupe]

I have to be honest...yeah, I do still have the Whipple. I would likely work out some deal too, but if I can't get what I want for it, I won't bother. It will make it's way on my car if someone doesn't buy it. I had other plans for the car, but if I have to keep it, I will. I won't give it away.

And....back to the subject......

Where's my money Robert?:confused: :mad:
This guy is a doofus.:(

[ThunderTurkey]

From Paypal:
We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any
funds from the seller's account. Due to privacy laws, we cannot
discuss the details of any action taken. We hope you understand our policy and that it assures you that you are safe using PayPal.
I feel so safe!
:mad: ~"From MY experience with PayPal when DanSmith cheated me out of money, it's probably a better idea to send a few club members by his house!"

[V8Supercoupe]

Anyone directly involved with this will want to be PM'ing me, or emailing me ASAP as to the new direction this is going.

[SlowProject]

I am sitting home after surgery so I haven't been able to check the boards.
6 days in the hospital is no fun :( Got a nice scar and 8 staples to show for it.


Just figured I would jump on here and let everyone know my outcome.

I paid with a cc through paypal.

So..... even though paypal could not get my money back:

I payed in 2 payments with 2 diffrent credit cards.

My first card just takes the money directly out of paypals account and makes the money situation a problem between paypal and the seller.

My second card is still in dispute, but I did fax them emails and PM's to support my case.

I should only come out bruised from this one.

and to the top it goes............

[V8Supercoupe]

For those interested. Robert has officially sold his car and was paid additional to deliver the car. The sale of this car has been the excuse all along that he couldn;t pay all parties involved back.

SO...we know he has money now.....Are you going to make good Robert?

[ThunderTurkey]

For those interested. Robert has officially sold his car and was paid additional to deliver the car.
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The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp
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:eek: ~ "I thought we all decided this was the largest Internet SCAM going? THAT would be some JUSTICE for you!!" :D

[V8Supercoupe]

I appreciate the link, but it appears to be on the up and up. I am leaving some information out to protect sources.

Thanks anyway.

[ThunderDave]

According to his profile, his last post was 5/26 and his last activity was 7/4. Sounds like he's laying low and he may be in stealth mode when he visits sccoa, just so he won't be noticed. Hope y'all get your money back, but right now it looks unlikely. What a jerk this Robert guy must be.

[dwinthrup]

looks to me like he's trying to cover things up i think a mod should make it so he can't edit stuff

[90XR7Cougar5spd]

That aint no chit. He went through and edited all of his chit yesterday..... What a low life, lil bastard is online right now........ Even if you fellas dont get your money back, remember the old saying, what comes around, goes around......

[rzibilske77]

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[90XR7Cougar5spd]

yea keep the b/s comments coming.........i need something to do.

It wasnt a BS comment. Its the truth! If you would have maned up and refunded the money, you would have been alot better off, or hell, you would have been alot better off just by just selling the rims once! I see on TCCOA that your trying to correct the problem, and i do give you props on that. Atleast your trying to fix the problem after months of these people waiting for their money...... But, whats the deal with the post editing, what are you trying to hide?

[rzibilske77]

all has be refunded and over with.