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Jim Demmitt Jr
05-18-2002, 04:23 AM
Hello all
I saw the other post on the Cobra 2003 vs 2000 Cobra R
The Cobra 2003 I think is nice and will sell good
The 2003 will reach a peak speed of 155mph as tested

The Cobra R 2000 top speed is over 170+ mph so this means as proven and tested the Cobra R 2000 is much faster plus the value will always be much greater for the 2000 Cobra R

The Cobra R is and will be the fastest production Mustang ever built I will never part with mine a part of FORD History

BlackAnSC
05-18-2002, 04:31 AM
Umm go pick up this months Car and Driver and read the article on the 2003 Cobra, what youll read is that the 2003 is .1 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile @ 12.9. Whos faster Jim? your mouth or the 2003 Cobra?

BlackAnSC
05-18-2002, 04:35 AM
By the way, the only point of your post was to brag, lemming.

Jim Demmitt Jr
05-18-2002, 04:37 AM
Tony we are talking top speed
FASTEST SPEED not in 1/4 mile overall top speed
Let's try to be nice here we are all adults keep it nice
Thank you Tony

sabbySC
05-18-2002, 07:48 AM
but than again MM&FF did go 12.5s in a 00R.

89BlownBrd
05-18-2002, 09:48 AM
The 00 R that MM&FF did 12.5 in, I don't believe was on the stock tires, I think they put DRs on it. And the 03 Cobra is governed to 155 because of aerodynamics. They didn't want to add the foot tall wing of the R needed to make it stable at the 180 it's capable of.

scroach
05-18-2002, 10:23 AM
I feel bad, but I agree with Jim about getting a cobra R. The only reason is because it's fast without a blower.

My personally philosophy for fast cars is get a fast NA car and then put a blower/turbo on it.

Of course, I thought a few days ago Jim said he was going to put up or shut up.

Derek R
05-18-2002, 10:43 AM
"Fastest" is always relative term.

Does the 15mph advantage a Cobra R has really matter? When are you going to be deadlocked in a top end race that reaches over 150mph? That is the only thing is has over the 2003 Cobra. The limited run deal is nice, if you are into showing the car.

I've been in both. I'd take both anyday, but if I had to choose one, it'd be the '03 Cobra. I swap out the exhaust, change a pulley and some tires and it runs 11s.

supercoupe1990
05-18-2002, 11:25 AM
Check out the post I just put up, it's got a pic of the 2003 Cobra SVT...I'd take both anyday as well, but if I had my choice, I'd take the SVT in a heartbeat! The pic is from the June issue of R&T. I quote "The 2003 Cobra is the most powerful production Mustang ever." The 2003 also has more front end weight than the older models, for what it's worth.
-Jeff
Both are VERY sweet rides!
:)

Jim Demmitt Jr
05-18-2002, 01:57 PM
Bobs getting a 2003
he orderd one the same time we did he cant wait to get it

I got the the Cobra R beouse they only made 300 of them VALUE & performance is what I wanted and the Cobra R 2000 is all of that and more

Bob is building Cobra DOHC engines now porting the heads those baby's make some serious horsepower

tbirdsc357
05-18-2002, 03:01 PM
Last time I checked this was/is the BBS for "Thunderbird SC", not SVT Mustangs.

If Jim wants to discuss his very nice SC, by all means proceed. However I don't think that this is the forum for discussing which is faster, an 2003 SVT Cobra or 2000 Cobra R, I don't see a T-Bird anywhere in that discussion. I am sure that the very proud onwers of SVT Mustangs has a forum of their own. No disrespect intended to anyone.

Next topic please.

Steve.
steve's supercoupe (http://tbirdsc357.tripod.com)

BlackAnSC
05-18-2002, 03:08 PM
Jims a moron, thats why He cant shut up.

Jim Demmitt Jr
05-18-2002, 03:09 PM
Steve there was some disagreement in this by others and yes its a Thunderbird site but look at the other posts Escort kill story I killed this I killed that storys

This is probably more interesting than tbird talk but your right this is the last on this for a while

rksc90
05-18-2002, 03:16 PM
this is the last on this for a while

so whats that, an entire hour or something

tbirdsc357
05-18-2002, 03:17 PM
You say lets be adults and grow up and your reply to me for my first post in this forum is "don't read it then" Apparently some people cant take constructive criticism. Also that post about Escorts is just one post, and most other kill stories include an SC some where in that discussion.

Once again, no disrespect intended to anyone.

Steve.
steve's supercoupe (http://tbirdsc357.tripod.com)

tbirdsc357
05-18-2002, 03:19 PM
So i see that you edited your post.

Steve
steve's supercoupe (http://tbirdsc357.tripod.com)

Jim Demmitt Jr
05-18-2002, 03:19 PM
No not an hour maybe 2min :-)
I am getting back on tbird talk so hang in there

rksc90
05-18-2002, 03:20 PM
maybe this will keep James away
http://members.tccoa.com/rksc90/bsrepel.jpg
I wonder if I need another can :(

Jim Demmitt Jr
05-18-2002, 03:23 PM
Steve let's change this
Nice SC with great mods how quick have you gone ET wise?

tbirdsc357
05-18-2002, 03:28 PM
Thanks. Jim, ever since doing the mods I have not had a chance to run on the track. Hopefully I can run it some time this summer at one of our track meets.

Steve.
steve's supercoupe (http://tbirdsc357.tripod.com)

Andy 94Sc
05-18-2002, 05:07 PM
Bobs getting a 2003
he orderd one the same time we did he cant wait to get it


What you mean "WE" white man?


Lemme guess, Dad bought the Cobra R and Jr gets to claim it's his on the BBS.

BlueSHO
05-19-2002, 12:56 AM
the 2003 cobra does every bit of 175, and to unleash that, you'll just need a chip. it has the gearing. it does 155 (its limited top speed)at redline in 5th gear. and it has a whole extra gear to play with.

as for whats faster, depends on what you want. if you want to tear up the autox, the cobra r will spank the 03 left and right (with its less weight, better distribution, tires, susp. ect)

if you want a 1/4 demon, the 03 is faster stock for stock, but the cobra R is only .1 sec off, and dosent have a blower yet :)

Jim Demmitt Jr
05-19-2002, 01:03 AM
Thank's for your info
Blue SHO the 2003 are very nice and I do like the Blown DOHC

If I had the money I would still get the 2003 but unfortunately I am poor so I can dream of having both now if I can only keep the Cobra R 2000 payments are very high

thetwztd1
02-08-2006, 03:52 PM
This is a very late reply to this nonsense. I would put my money on a 2000 cobra r over a 2003 cobra any day. The cobra r is not desingned for straight line racing. look up the specs that really matter. On street tires (not even good ones) the car oulls over a G on the skid pad. the 03 cobra barely pulls 0.92 g's. On track tires the cobra r pulls 1.15 g's conservativley. I mean conservative cause that is with the stock alignment. Throw in some neg camber and a little tow out i bet it would go over 1.2 g's. Also the brakes on this thing are insane. huge ~~~ brakes this thing will stop faster than a 03 cobra any day. On top of that this car wieghs 3,500 pounds. the 03 cobra wieghs atleast 3,800. I do believe the intent of this car was track racing, or auto crossing because of these features. Otherwise the car would have a solid axle in back. but thats just my opinion. Not everything is baout a straight line.

David Neibert
02-08-2006, 04:36 PM
thetwztd1,

Did you ever see one of those movies where they bury something because it's bad or just too evil to leave lying around, and eventually someone comes along many years later and digs it back up ??


David

XxSlowpokexX
02-08-2006, 07:16 PM
HA!.

When compared the 2000 Cobra R was a tad faster at the drag track and much faster on the track track. I forgot who did the comparison but it was both cars at the same time on the same day.

Now we can rebury it no? haha

Jim Demmitt Jr
02-08-2006, 10:49 PM
Old posts never die they just get brought back.


Well to see my 2000 Cobra r please check out my web page in my signuture (Damon) and (thetwztd1) are correct the 2000 Cobra R is quicker and faster than the 03

1FASTSC
02-09-2006, 12:27 PM
The cobra r is also gutted and has an ugly wing.

I'd take the 03/04 Cobra over the R any day of the week.

XxSlowpokexX
02-09-2006, 02:57 PM
The wing on the cobra R actually has a purpouse. Actually thr car is meant for racing period..At high speeds mind you!

CMac89
02-09-2006, 03:04 PM
The wing on the cobra R actually has a purpouse. Actually thr car is meant for racing period..At high speeds mind you!
He's just jealous because he wishes his EVO wing is as massive as the Cobra R's.

I'm not too big on the front bumper ground scraper which makes the rest of the body look naked. It's like half a ricer.:)

David Neibert
02-09-2006, 03:42 PM
The Cobra R is a real deal factory built race car. It is superior to the 03/04 Cobra in every way except passenger comfort and ergonomics. Of course none of that really matters if the car never gets used for it's intended purpose. Jim...quit worrying about hurting the value of that car and start enjoying it.



Die thread die...



David

Randy N Connie
02-09-2006, 05:15 PM
I don't understand people buy cars ,then they are afraid to drive them. .:)



Randy

fast Ed
02-09-2006, 06:20 PM
like the 2007 shelby 500.
5.8 with blower




5.4 DOHC, Randy ... Ford hasn't made a 5.8 engine for cars or light trucks since 1997 ... that was the 351W pushrod engine. :)


Yes, this thread should die. :p

Jim Demmitt Jr
02-09-2006, 10:22 PM
I don't understand people buy cars ,then they are afraid to drive them. .:)



Randy


Randy your right pay $65,000 and tuck it away in the shop but I got so many other cars my Galaxie 427 R code car is my baby take to all car shows drive in meets. Looking into getting a K code 66 mustang fastback with matching numbers soon one more to add to the family :D

Jim Demmitt Jr
02-09-2006, 10:28 PM
The Cobra R is a real deal factory built race car. It is superior to the 03/04 Cobra in every way except passenger comfort and ergonomics. Of course none of that really matters if the car never gets used for it's intended purpose. Jim...quit worrying about hurting the value of that car and start enjoying it.



Die thread die...



David


David its going to be ran.

I am entering it in the SVTOA road race at Laguna Seca this year there will be many high dollar cars racing in it. Also taking a few test laps with Jim Wells Shelby 427 Cobra that bugger is fast and original he and a few others are going to be on hand

Yes this thread should die lets let it rest for now until someone els digs it up again in 3 years ;)

1FASTSC
02-10-2006, 09:37 PM
He's just jealous because he wishes his EVO wing is as massive as the Cobra R's.

I wish my evo didn't have a wing at all, I'm thinking about getting a carbon trunk just to get rid of it.

Kev70
02-11-2006, 02:15 AM
With some work on that EVO, I'd put it against either Mustang. That 03 Cobra will own the Cobra R through the quarter mile and top speed with simple bolt-ons and a chip. The weight difference is not nearly as important once you get the car moving (if you were racing straight line-top speed). There would also have to be a complete buildup on the Cobra R engine before you got the tuning and internals ready to take the same amount of boost that the 03 Cobra already has with the new bolt-ons. Besides, who ever heard of a Mustang racing around a corner? I think that it was pretty dirty of Ford to put out another Mustang with more power at about half the price after screwing people on the Cobra R. They could have at least put some sort of patent on the body panels to keep all of these knock-off pieces from being put on Mustang GTs and trying to copy a car as rare as the Cobra R.

XxSlowpokexX
02-11-2006, 11:29 AM
The Cobra R is a race car that is made to run hour after hour consistantly without blowing up..You do that to the 03 cobra or any number of other "race" cars from various manufacturers and most will just not hold up.


With some work on that EVO, I'd put it against either Mustang

Hell I can make a Yugo beat mustang...But it will always be a Yugo.

And youd be suprised jut show strong of a motor the Cobra R has. There is a guy running around with twin turboes on one