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DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-30-2006, 08:21 PM
metco 2.6" pulley
carbon fiber CAI
4.10 gears
Steig stage 1 ported blower
custom x pipe, borla cat back
4" alum driveshaft
BMR suspension
boghart wheels, drag radials(that run may have been done on slicks)

I think thats it and a tune

1.45 60 ft(EDIT)

Not a bad time for a basically stock car eh?

http://www.evoperform.com/

brandonhgt
10-30-2006, 09:57 PM
Good stuff, I was hoping they responded well to mods after seeing the disappointing times the early reviews came out with. Doesn't seem like a very hard way to get into the 10's at all!

Scott Long
10-30-2006, 10:00 PM
And I heard those cars are overweight pieces of crap. I heard one guy put an intake, a pulley, and a tune on his, and it broke a rod.

Toms-SC
10-30-2006, 10:01 PM
^ Bet you heard wrong

It's and SC with 200 more HP

Scott Long
10-30-2006, 10:14 PM
Well there is no excuse for a 4000 lb. Mustang. None. If it was like 3200 lbs. It'd run 9's. Still not that impressive because there are guys with 03/04 Cobra's going faster with smaller blowers and smaller engines.

So like I said. Pig boat.

XR7 Dave
10-30-2006, 10:22 PM
metco 2.6" pulley
carbon fiber CAI
4.10 gears
Steig stage 1 ported blower
custom x pipe, borla cat back
4" alum driveshaft
BMR suspension
boghart wheels, drag radials(that run may have been done on slicks)

I think thats it and a tune

1.45 60 ft(EDIT)

Not a bad time for a basically stock car eh?

http://www.evoperform.com/

I wouldn't call it basically stock. It's a long ways from stock. The fact that it doesn't take a huge list of stuff to get it to that stage is nice and is a testament to a good basic engine package though.

I'd much rather drive that than an 03 Cobra, if I were in the market. For one thing that car fits me better than the 03 Cobra. I don't like the way you sit in them.

DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-31-2006, 12:26 AM
Well there is no excuse for a 4000 lb. Mustang. None. If it was like 3200 lbs. It'd run 9's. Still not that impressive because there are guys with 03/04 Cobra's going faster with smaller blowers and smaller engines.

So like I said. Pig boat.

I dont know any 03 Cobra with those same mods doing that speed..200lbs more is all it is then the new edge varient The car is 100% better then the older fox based stang..Its a heavy car that really doesnt feel that heavy..Ride quality is great and it is a great performance package.

Do I wish it was 3000lbs and IRS....Well if it were...It be a vette..Its a different animal.

I am sure you will not see a lightweight camaro or challenger either..But I could be wrong

CarlisleLandOwn
10-31-2006, 03:01 AM
3 valve gt's with bolt on's are faster. :eek:

And your right, the chassis design is far superior to the 1979 chassis using 60's technology, 90's sheet metal and an 80's IRS rear. Some may say it has more in common with an F body then a Mustang! :p Then again, since the rear suspension is almost exactly the same, and the Ford 8.8 is a direct copy of a GM 10 bolt they could be right. :eek:

XR7 Dave
10-31-2006, 10:19 AM
3 valve gt's with bolt on's are faster. :eek:

And your right, the chassis design is far superior to the 1979 chassis using 60's technology, 90's sheet metal and an 80's IRS rear. Some may say it has more in common with an F body then a Mustang! :p Then again, since the rear suspension is almost exactly the same, and the Ford 8.8 is a direct copy of a GM 10 bolt they could be right. :eek:

And Damon used to give me SOOO much crap when I said that the F-body was a better handling chassis than the Fox. :eek:

quick35th
10-31-2006, 11:22 AM
Thats some impressive numbers for sure. Good to see that someone is actually out there enjoying their GT500 rather then locking it up in a garage somewhere.

Shane

DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-31-2006, 12:25 PM
DAVE I DID NOT SAY THAT!...What I said was that you can get a mustang to handle very well....Plus a 3 link with no torque arm isnt like an F body!

However my cougar with teh full griggs suspension is kinda like an F body...Torque arm and all..Oh I dont wanna get into this again!

XR7 Dave
10-31-2006, 01:05 PM
DAVE I DID NOT SAY THAT!...What I said was that you can get a mustang to handle very well....Plus a 3 link with no torque arm isnt like an F body!

However my cougar with teh full griggs suspension is kinda like an F body...Torque arm and all..Oh I dont wanna get into this again!

Haha, me either. I like that Shelby and I think it's very impressive. And if I ever found a nice enough 85 GT (at a price I could afford) I'd buy it. I like those cars just because of what they are. Boxy look and all.

91supacoop
10-31-2006, 01:08 PM
does the shelby have proper safety equipment??:D :D j/k

Ira R.
10-31-2006, 02:08 PM
does the shelby have proper safety equipment??:D :D j/k

Only the with the manual transmission. The auto's don't come standard like the manual's do with the "blonde in the passenger seat coffee cup holder" to ensure the safety of the interioir leather and the drivers lap! :p ;) :D Something about the console is too wide I think someone said. :rolleyes:

Ira

DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-31-2006, 03:55 PM
The crazy thing is when the 03/04 cobras came out they were so easy to mod that at the NMRA events stock cobra with bolt ons..And I mean minor boltons were getting booted left and right from the track for going to fast without proper safety equipment.

Seriously though brand new cars that without even touching the motor doing 10's?...And most likely passing a sniffer...Its a great world we live in...

Dave..My first stang was am 84 notchback....My buddies actually thought it was a K-Car when I brought it home....I loved that car...

XR7 Dave
10-31-2006, 05:07 PM
Seriously though brand new cars that without even touching the motor doing 10's?...And most likely passing a sniffer...Its a great world we live in...


That depends on your perspective. What's the fun in that if speed is so easy? I realize that for some hotrodding is kind of a thing of the past being that people don't have the time or space to be doing it but cars this fast do tend to take away from the hobby of making cars fast.

DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-31-2006, 06:24 PM
Dave I agree..Thus owning a supercoupe!

frdlvr30
10-31-2006, 09:22 PM
I agree with you dave. They make it too easy with cars like the cobras. Ive had several sc's and mustangs. i had a 03 cobra as well. I did the normal bolt ons, intake, blower pully, bypass, ehaust, and a sct tune. Made 537rwhp with belt slippage. Ran 11.35 at over 125mph. All this for a 550.00 car payment plus two grand in aftermarket. The thing was stupid fast, but here i was with a 600hp car with like 2k miles on it and a warranty( im a ford tech), kinda took the fun out of it you know. I was like now what? Just my two cents....Dave S.

djfourmoney
10-31-2006, 09:48 PM
The entire 'net doesn't like the GT500 Mustangs and claim it to be a total disapointment. I have not driven the car, so I can't comment on it directly, but I think its worthwhile for those that bought it.

Plus living in California, the faster your car is to start with, the easier time you have to make it really fast and still pass CARB testing.

I would never buy a early Fox body. I don't care how light it is, its tired technology and you end up replacing more than 50% of the car just to get it to run quickly, safely.

XR7 Dave -

I don't undestand what its taking away really, your just doing things "differently"

I wouldn't touch another carb if I didn't have too. That's so outdated and not the black art that some people make it out to be. I'm EFI all day, everyday and I like the one click adjustibilty of it. Is that taking away from traditional hot rodding techniques?

I don't think so.

Alot of people still put Intake, Exhaust and Cam in modern cars and run faster. What's so "different" about that? Maybe the car to use doing it, but that's about it.

I'm off to the SEMA Show tonight, that's proof that "Old Style" Hot Rodding isn't dead either...

XR7 Dave
10-31-2006, 10:03 PM
First let me say that I'm not being argumentative. But I do feel that the hot rodding of the 21st century is jadded. I went on 4 Hot Rod Power Tours so believe me, I am aware of what is going on out there. There are some really cool things going on but all to often the deal is just like Dave S. posted above. Put a 502 crate motor in it and bolt on some fancy looking parts. That will give enough power to make just about any car "unsafe" but that's just my point.

I personally idolize (well not really but they are damn cool) guys like Smokey Yunick, Bill Jenkins, Corky Bell, Don Garlits, Bob Glidden and others. These guys knew what it meant to try something new, make mistakes, learn, try again, and come up with something different and often better than someone else. There is a lot to be learned from people like that and a lot to be learned from people who take that approach with things. When there is a recipe on how to get kicked out of a race track for going to fast without opening the motor or even adding a power adder then I just think something gets missed.

Damon, you are right owning an SC really puts that in perspective. But even there things are getting a little cut and paste. A balance is good though because you just can't do it ALL yourself. It's hard to be as completely satisfied with your accomplishments with your SC when you look across the lane and see a stocker that's about to clean your clock. Oh well, that's how it started (with us getting our clocks cleaned) so maybe things haven't changed all THAT much. ;)

DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-31-2006, 10:27 PM
The biggest complaint about the stang is its weight..

What Ford did was make a pretty darn refined mustang. It handles good..Rides good..And is quick...I have heard complaints of..It doesnt feel like 500hp....Feels heavy..In reality that is a testimate of a good tuned chasis for its power..Yes its heavy...Its not a sports car..Its not a lightweight racecar..Heck I was in a Shelby and it doesnt feel liek a racecar...or a sportscar...This is actually one of the reasons Ford did so well with the mustang to begin with. While chevy was making there camaro into a cheap vette..Ford was making there everyday pony car more of a multipurpouse vehicle..Stangs didnt sell more because they were faster then the lt1 or ls1 or ls4 camaros...They sold well because they gave you a good compramise of everything..All in a 24 yo chasis.....

Personally I feel that 4,000lbs is pushing it and on thier premier stang they should have put an effort into reducing weight..Look how well they got it to work at its current weight...imagine 1000lbs lighter..even 500...

In the light of fuel injection it's just not that easy to bolt on something and go. Computers freak out..Need to be tuned...

My first car quick car was an 84 stang 5.0. There was no lets check the AF ratio...Change some jets...upgrade a powervalve make a pass.....Check plugs...Ohhhh....To rich..downjet..do it again....So easy...

I tried 101 different combinations...nitrous..blower..nitrous blower..different heads..cams....Every weekend was something different...Those days are long gone...I can pick up a recipe and make whatever HP number I want to...

It really is amazing what is out there..Heck I saw a twin turbo carberated camaro...Needless to say he has les smoney in his motor then I have in my turbo fuel injected car and hes making 2 times as much power...

Oh this all make sme sick


10.4X.XX out of a basically stock car.....Where is the fun?..You buy it

Scott Long
11-01-2006, 08:12 PM
I like the Shelby GT500 just not the side stripes or the wheels. I guess I could live with the weight, as I do now with my SC. Personally I'd just prefer a black on black 03/04 SVT w/ silver or 10th anniv. wheels. Still a fast car with a lot of potential. Throw a better blower (Kenne-Bell) or twin turbo's on it and you have a downright sick ride. Those engines are damn near bullet proof. Fully forged. Is the new 5.4L fully forged? I would assume so. I still think they should make an LX again, a light weight stripped car w/ manual windows and stuff, at least make it able to be ordered that way so the hotrod guys can go to the dealer and order one up. It'd be cool to have the SC 5.4L as an option on the build sheet.

An 05 GT w/ a whipple made 490 rwhp at 9 psi and 504 rwhp at 11 psi. Too bad they have weak rods and pistons from the factory. Even the block is weaker being aluminum. But you could always swap in a 4V SC Cobra 4.6L engine and then put the whipple on it. I do like the new stangs look.

T1Bird
11-01-2006, 10:27 PM
I was a huge Terminator fan, the mystic or black on black 04's are pure sex on wheels, but seeing a gt500, lowered and some borla's put on it, i prefer them, my boss picks up his tungston with stripe delete but side stripe next week, it will be put on the trailer from the stealership and brought to his garage, then taken out next spring for a Dasilva racing stage 1 improvement, cold air intake, smaller blower pulley, borla cat back exaust and 4:10 gears in the back, she will scoot pretty good for that. Told him to order his racing helmet from santa as he will need it even if he misses 2 shifts :p

Nettlesd
11-01-2006, 10:56 PM
Is the new 5.4L fully forged?

They are forged but they don't have the nice Manley rods like the 03/04 Cobra has. That's a shame, that's how they should have come from the factory.