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Chuck W
12-01-2006, 02:44 PM
Well, I'm not sure if this would be appropriate here, but I'm not sure if the original post in the Group Purchase forum is really the best either.

For a couple years now I have been making heavy-duty polyurethane motor mounts for various Ford niche applications, originally with the 2.3T motors, but recently expanding into others. (Over 200+ units sold)

At a recent request I looked into mounts for the SuperCoupes and have come up with an possible option.

http://www.turbochuck.com/images/Motor%20Mounts/Type%208/Type%208_1.JPG

Other pics HERE (http://www.turbochuck.com/images/Motor%20Mounts/Type%208/) with a comparision to a stocker.

I offer two different durometers of isolators. My design also ensures that you will never tear an isolator in two again. I can also supply then with different color isolators if there is enough interest.

Currently I have fitment on 89-93 cars and once I get my hands on some 94-95 pieces I can fill that gap as well.

The pics are of the unplated prototypes. Production pieces will be zinc chromate plated and include all new hardware.

I will be sending a set off to George Davenport here soon (but I will have a couple extra sets available at that time if folks are interested).

The selling price is probably going to be $150/set.

Just checking interest and opinions.

Chuck W
CWE Products

PReDiTR91
12-01-2006, 03:31 PM
Looking for forward to the 5.0 mn12 mounts! Thats some nice looking peices you got there buddy;)

XxSlowpokexX
12-01-2006, 03:35 PM
Chuck I would be interested in a 94/95 mount..Also have you done anything 4.6 Tbird wise? I;d be interested in them as well

amon

Chuck W
12-01-2006, 03:44 PM
Chuck I would be interested in a 94/95 mount..Also have you done anything 4.6 Tbird wise? I'd be interested in them as well

amon

Damon,

I am trying to get my hands on some 94-95 mounts and some 4.6 mounts to do just that.

XxSlowpokexX
12-01-2006, 03:57 PM
I'll see what I can do but would most likely need them back..I have teh motor almost out of my 4.6 bird and have half a motor in my roomates 94 sc so I could probbaly just get them pulled out.

Chuck W
12-01-2006, 04:05 PM
I'll see what I can do but would most likely need them back..I have teh motor almost out of my 4.6 bird and have half a motor in my roomates 94 sc so I could probbaly just get them pulled out.

I wouldn't need to keep them.

BTW, I see you have an 87 V8 Cougar. What engine? What K-member? I make mounts for the 86-88 cars too. ;)

Deep6
12-08-2006, 03:47 PM
You mentioned that you will offer them in two different durometers? How close does that approximate the softness of the stock liquid filled ones?

Many of use who converted to solid rubber engine mounts have had to take the slight trade-off of more engine vibe in exchange for increased durability.

Due to polyurethane's increased strength properties, it is possible to use a durometer that will be very similar to the stock liquid filled mounts. This way we can get smooth engine performance without tearing our mounts apart....:D

XxSlowpokexX
12-08-2006, 03:51 PM
Chuck I swapped out k member to a tubular one that used mustang mounts :O)

XxSlowpokexX
12-08-2006, 03:52 PM
Due to polyurethane's increased strength properties, it is possible to use a durometer that will be very similar to the stock liquid filled mounts. This way we can get smooth engine performance without tearing our mounts apart....

I am thinking no from teh looks of them EVEN if they were of a similiar durometer

Chuck W
12-08-2006, 04:54 PM
Chuck I swapped out k member to a tubular one that used mustang mounts :O)

Well fine....be that way ! ;) Any luck on the other stock mounts?

As far as a comparison to the stock liquid-filled mounts ....there is no way to tear mine apart....you'd be ripping steel. The bushings on mine are only acted on in compression.

Yes, there is a trade-off for some vibrations, even with the softer ones. On the V6's though it isn't as bad as say on the 2.3T I4's. The 5.0 guys haven't made any mention of undue vibrations either.

It's possible I could have an even softer ones made...but you'd get to a point of diminishing returns eventually. The stiff ones are 70A and the soft ones are 60A. I've considered an dual durometer set up as well with a softer bushing on the off side and a stiffer one on the torque side.

I'm going to be sending the couple prototype sets off to the platers next week, so I'm still on schedule to get the samples to George D this month. I'll have a couple extra sets available. These will not be as nice as production pieces as I had to make some tweaks to my CAD files and there is a slight learning curve when figuring out the best way to weld them, together.
Anyway, if someone is interested in one of the extra sets, I'll sell them ata reduced price.

XxSlowpokexX
12-08-2006, 05:14 PM
Chuck it got awfully cold..And well......:O)

Chuck W
12-08-2006, 07:58 PM
Chuck it got awfully cold..And well......:O)
Wuss :p
If you get around to it let me know.

Chuck W
12-17-2006, 03:52 PM
Back from the platers and once I get a couple more pieces of hardware they will off off to George.

http://www.turbochuck.com/images/Motor%20Mounts/Type%208/Type%208_3.JPG

Chuck W
12-22-2006, 11:00 AM
Ok, I have the hardware and George will have these in his hands at some point next week.

Chuck W
12-27-2006, 10:54 AM
The samples are shipped and George should have them Thurs.

99GSXR750
12-27-2006, 12:23 PM
If all goes well for George, I'll definetely be getting a set.
Mike

Flex
12-27-2006, 05:30 PM
Chuck,
Your pics don't come up for me. Can you email them to me? My email is bkolic@netscape.net.

Flex
12-27-2006, 05:32 PM
Never mind I reloaded and they came up. Could you post plated pics. Thanks.

Chuck W
12-27-2006, 05:33 PM
Chuck,
Your pics don't come up for me. Can you email them to me? My email is bkolic@netscape.net.

Look again. The server was down earlier in the day, but they should be there now...I just looked.PICS (http://www.turbochuck.com/images/Motor%20Mounts/Type%208/)

If not I suppose I can email them.

There is a plated pic....

seawalkersee
12-27-2006, 05:36 PM
I will be ready next month for a pair.

Chris

Chuck W
12-27-2006, 06:29 PM
I will be ready next month for a pair.

Chris

Not sure if I'll be ready to do a batch then or not. Depends on the interest. I do/will have a couple sets of the pre-production ones available. They are structurally sound, but might have a couple cosmetic "issues". They would be at a reduced price.

Mike8675309
12-27-2006, 08:51 PM
93 cars are not the same as 89-92 right? They went to the Mark IV ABS system on the 93 car so the motor was shifted back towards center on 93+ SC's.

If you've got something that will fit on my 93 with a manual trans , I'll take a set.

Chuck W
12-27-2006, 09:01 PM
93 cars are not the same as 89-92 right? They went to the Mark IV ABS system on the 93 car so the motor was shifted back towards center on 93+ SC's.

If you've got something that will fit on my 93 with a manual trans , I'll take a set.

Well I don't know all the details on that. That was kind of one of the things I asked about but never got any clear answers from anyone, nor could I get anyone to help me out with stock mounts other than the set George sent me. It is possible these only fit 89-92's.

I can cover the others if I can get some help with locating some mounts to work from.

fast Ed
12-28-2006, 10:32 AM
Guys, I believe that the motor mount change was halfway through the 1992 model year, IIRC. 4 / 9 / 92 production date seems to pop in to my head, but that may be for something else. The mount pad on the crossmember was moved I think.

Anyway, I'm away from the dealership until Jan. 2. I'll take a look at the catalogue when I get back.


cheers
Ed N.

Chuck W
12-28-2006, 04:19 PM
Guys, I believe that the motor mount change was halfway through the 1992 model year, IIRC. 4 / 9 / 92 production date seems to pop in to my head, but that may be for something else. The mount pad on the crossmember was moved I think.

Anyway, I'm away from the dealership until Jan. 2. I'll take a look at the catalogue when I get back.


cheers
Ed N.

Ed,
So is '93 the oddball year? Or is it the transistion year and the same as the 94-95's?

I have no problems covering all the bases...just need to know what the bases are ;)

seawalkersee
12-28-2006, 04:54 PM
I will have the engine out of my 93 soon. If need be I will send you the factory ones. I dont know if there is a measurement that can be done on the mount, but if there is let me know. I should start pulling it within the next two weeks.

Chris

Chuck W
12-28-2006, 05:16 PM
I will have the engine out of my 93 soon. If need be I will send you the factory ones. I dont know if there is a measurement that can be done on the mount, but if there is let me know. I should start pulling it within the next two weeks.

Chris

We may be able to get by with a couple measurements to check the offset, etc. If they don't appear to be the same, and I can borrow your mounts, it won't take me long to verify.

Thanks

Mike8675309
12-28-2006, 11:10 PM
Mine are in a box somewhere in the garage. I can dig them up this weekend and take some pictures and measurements of the mounts and post them for ya.

I can't recall but it was my understanding the 89-92 motors are shifted to the passenger side due to the size of the ABS master cylinder of the teves Mark II ABS system. The switch to the Mark IV system stuck a vacuum boost master cylinder in I thought was why they moved the motor back over towards center and thus the motor mount change.

But I suppose it could have been mid year replacement if they just wanted to use up all the pre 93 stuff. I don't believe the move of the motor over a tad affected any other components on the vehicle.

fast Ed
12-28-2006, 11:40 PM
Ed,
So is '93 the oddball year? Or is it the transistion year and the same as the 94-95's?

I have no problems covering all the bases...just need to know what the bases are ;)

Chuck, from what I remember, 1992 MY was the time of the production change. I don't have access to the parts catalogue to verify, until I'm back at the dealership in the new year.


cheers,
Ed N.

Chuck W
12-29-2006, 12:30 AM
Just let me know Mike.

Thanks

V8Supercoupe
12-29-2006, 09:28 AM
I may,,,,keyword, MAY, have a set of solid rubbers for my 95 kicking around somewhere. My motor shold be ready soon so I would need them back ASAP.


I'll have to look if you tell me you ned them. BTW, when I did the motor swap on my 93 a couple years ago, the mounts from a 90 car did not fit my 93. If I recall correctly, I think one side fit, but the other didn't. I just wish I could remember which or what the details were.

Chuck W
12-29-2006, 09:49 AM
I may,,,,keyword, MAY, have a set of solid rubbers for my 95 kicking around somewhere. My motor shold be ready soon so I would need them back ASAP.


I'll have to look if you tell me you ned them. BTW, when I did the motor swap on my 93 a couple years ago, the mounts from a 90 car did not fit my 93. If I recall correctly, I think one side fit, but the other didn't. I just wish I could remember which or what the details were.

Well I don't just need the isolators....I need the entire mount.

I'm also going to bet that the pass side was the same and the driver side was different...just a guess though.

birds4us
12-29-2006, 10:41 AM
The right side is the side that changes. I think just the lower part of the mount is the only part that changes. A n/a 3.8 mount is the same. There is a noticeable difference. The two do not interchange.

Chuck W
12-29-2006, 10:47 AM
Well, like I said, if I can get ahold of the proper samples, I can cover all of them.

V8Supercoupe
12-29-2006, 02:01 PM
Well I don't just need the isolators....I need the entire mount.

eh, got my head in my azz when I wrote that. I'll llook at what I have, but I know what your after.

fast Ed
01-02-2007, 10:52 AM
I was close. It is showing as April 7, 1992, as the production date split for the mounts and the crossmember. So that's part way through the 1992 model year. What the actual difference is, can't say. It may just be in the metal bracket portion of the mounts.


cheers
Ed N.

Chuck W
01-03-2007, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the date.

Sounds like there might possibly be 3 different types (89-92/92.5-93/94-95)

Whenever I can get some samples or info we can move forward.

fast Ed
01-03-2007, 01:59 PM
Left side for the SC shows the same from 4/7/92, right through to the end of 1995 model year. Right side is the same as the 3.8 NA, and it is different for 94 - 95 compared to the mid-92/93 mount.


cheers
Ed N.

Chuck W
01-03-2007, 02:07 PM
So by "left", do you mean Dr or Pass?

fast Ed
01-03-2007, 02:58 PM
Left as driver's side. :)


thx,
Ed N.

Chuck W
01-03-2007, 09:03 PM
OK, just making sure. ;) Some folks call it the other way.

Mike8675309
01-03-2007, 09:45 PM
Chuck, I just made an effort to find my mounts. I can't get to them right now as everything is blocked in. Maybe someone else can give you some dimensions on the 93 parts. In a couple weeks I'll have time to take out a bunch of boxes and stuff and then I should be able to dig them out as I'll be starting assembly of my motor.

Chuck W
01-04-2007, 12:26 AM
Just let me know.

Based on Ed's info, it looks like we need 3 pieces. A driver side 93-95 mount, a pass side 92.5-93 mount and a pass side 94-95 mount.

With these, we will have the full range covered 89-95 (as well as the 5.0 cars)

seawalkersee
01-04-2007, 01:56 AM
I have the 93 when ever you need it.

Chris

Chuck W
01-04-2007, 08:18 AM
I have the 93 when ever you need it.

Chris
YOu have mounts you can let me borrow for a week or so? PM me.

Flex
01-04-2007, 03:05 PM
Chuck,

What about a tranny mount? I just spent the last few days swapping out a trans. and that mount is just as pathetic or maybe worse than the motor mounts.

Chuck W
01-04-2007, 03:08 PM
Chuck,

What about a tranny mount? I just spent the last few days swapping out a trans. and that mount is just as pathetic or maybe worse than the motor mounts.
Any pics?

Flex
01-04-2007, 03:10 PM
I could post some or send you the ones that came of my donor trans.

Chuck W
01-04-2007, 03:17 PM
PM me some pics first and I can judge from there what I can do.

Flex
01-04-2007, 03:26 PM
I will try to get them to you today.

gldiii
01-04-2007, 04:21 PM
Auto tranny mount from trans to crossmember looks like this:

http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12parts/trans-mount/trans-mount.jpg

(Courtesy of MN12Performance, RIP.)

If I remember correctly the threaded part (covered in blue plastic) goes down into the crossmember and a nut screws on the end and then the two hole have bolts going through them into the actual tranny.

There are two different styles of mounts where the crossmember bolts to the unibody.

Chuck W
01-04-2007, 04:33 PM
Gee...looks alot like something I've already done for a european application ;)
http://www.turbochuck.com/images/Motor%20Mounts/Type%207/Type%20_7_1.jpg

George, you got your samples correct?

seawalkersee
01-04-2007, 11:11 PM
Yeah...and it looks sorta like the one for the new mustang as well. I can send you mine for the 5 spd when I ship out the motor mounts next week. Just let me know.

Chris

Flex
01-05-2007, 12:34 AM
Hot damn look at that. Looks like Chuck won't need to change too much.

Chuck W
01-05-2007, 10:36 AM
Yeah...and it looks sorta like the one for the new mustang as well. I can send you mine for the 5 spd when I ship out the motor mounts next week. Just let me know.

Chris

That would work for me.

Just as a reference, is the portion opposite the stud accessible when the mount is bolted to the trans?

seawalkersee
01-05-2007, 03:58 PM
I cant remember. I will have to look when I take it off tomorrow.

Chris

Chuck W
01-14-2007, 07:42 PM
OK, I got some parts from seawalkersee...

He sent some 93 SC mounts and the pass side lower bracket is definitely different, but I can take care of that easily. I still need some 94-95 to compare.

As far as the trans mount he sent me. It is identical to that mount of mine for another application I have pictured. The only issue is this. I'm going to have to look into some other way to do the long bolt as I don't think the top would be accessible once the mount is installed, and it would be near impossible to tighten it once it was all buttoned up. I need to see some pics of the trans mount installed to see exactly how it's in there.

Anyone have any installed trans mount pics?

XxSlowpokexX
01-14-2007, 11:32 PM
I believe 93 is same as 94/95..Mount change had something to do with the ABS change in 93

FAST ED can look up part numbers to see if they are same

Chuck W
01-14-2007, 11:37 PM
I believe 93 is same as 94/95..Mount change had something to do with the ABS change in 93

Well there was also a K-member change in 94.... So I don't know.

I have a mount from a '97 4.6 car, and the lower bracket is DEFINITELY different than the '93 and earlier ones.

XxSlowpokexX
01-14-2007, 11:58 PM
Well I am really unsure..But I was under the impression the change was 93 and up...Alot of thinsg were changed in 93...

Someoen at Ford could easily cross reference

Chuck W
01-15-2007, 12:13 AM
Someoen at Ford could easily cross reference

Well that only helps to a point. The only way to be certain is to get my hands on some 94-95 mounts and compare them.

seawalkersee
01-15-2007, 12:16 AM
Well...you could send me a trans mount back and I will try it and see what all needs to be done. I just went out and looked at the setup again. You CAN make it work, but you will need to take off the cross member to do it. You will have to holesaw the mounting plate to gain access. Then, put it all together finger tight. Tighten the mount shaft bolt as tight as you can. Then take out the two mount plate bolts and crossmember bolts and take it down. Tighten the center mount bolt and put the cross member back in. Tighten the mount plate to tranny bolts and then the outer crossmember bolts. Sounds like a LOT of work, but its not...it just looks that way...if you dont have any exhaust on. Not sure what to do if the exhaust can not be moved for assistance.

Chris

Chuck W
01-15-2007, 12:31 AM
Well let me think about it and see what else I can do. I'd hate for it to HAVE to involve hole-sawing.

Some shots of this extra bracket might help.

Chuck W
01-18-2007, 11:41 PM
So, does anyone have any 94-95 SC mounts handy?

I'm also looking for a 94-97 4.6 passenger mount as well if anyone has one of those laying around.

PReDiTR91
01-20-2007, 09:10 PM
Got my 5.0 mounts today! Chuck you are a true craftsman!;)

Chuck W
02-07-2007, 11:43 AM
So, does anyone have any 94-95 SC mounts handy?

I'm also looking for a 94-97 4.6 passenger mount as well if anyone has one of those laying around.

Still looking...

ricardoa1
02-08-2007, 10:39 PM
I have 95-95 brackets sitting in my garage.

What the earliear ones do is lower the engine slighly and move it to the right. They did this so the engine cleared the massive ABS system that was standard on the earlier models. The 95-94 are now more centered beacause they dont need the extra clearence because of the updated Braking system.

Chuck W
02-08-2007, 10:58 PM
What year is your car?

What year mounts are you using?

I might have an interest in the 94-95 mounts just for comparison so I have the info.

I have a set of '93 mounts sitting here and they are different than the early ones I had.

ricardoa1
02-09-2007, 01:10 AM
What year is your car?

What year mounts are you using?

I might have an interest in the 94-95 mounts just for comparison so I have the info.

I have a set of '93 mounts sitting here and they are different than the early ones I had.

My car is a 94. If you have 93 mounts I belive they could be the same as the the ones I had stock, because the 93 came with the new style braking system.

Chuck W
02-09-2007, 01:17 AM
OK, well then, from what you're telling me I have it covered. Do you think you could perhaps take a couple pics of the 94-95 U-brackets with a ruler for reference? If so shoot me an email and I'll let you know key dimensions.

Thanks
Chuck
cwarren@indy.net

ricardoa1
02-09-2007, 01:19 AM
OK, well then, from what you're telling me I have it covered. Do you think you could perhaps take a couple pics of the 94-95 U-brackets with a ruler for reference? If so shoot me an email and I'll let you know key dimensions.

Thanks
Chuck
cwarren@indy.net

Yeah that should not be a problem. Where do you need the measurements.

Chuck W
02-09-2007, 01:32 AM
If you could lay the tape measure across the base of each (not between the legs, but across). This will verify the side to side location of the isolator.

Also at least a measurement from the bottom of the U-bracket to the center of the bolt hole (that goes through the crossmember).

Also, just a pic from the side showing the profile of the U-brackets from the side would be helpful too.

Thanks
Chuck

ricardoa1
02-09-2007, 10:04 PM
If you could lay the tape measure across the base of each (not between the legs, but across). This will verify the side to side location of the isolator.

Also at least a measurement from the bottom of the U-bracket to the center of the bolt hole (that goes through the crossmember).

Also, just a pic from the side showing the profile of the U-brackets from the side would be helpful too.

Thanks
Chuck

pictures sent

Chuck W
02-09-2007, 10:39 PM
pictures sent


Got them. They are perfect.

A quick check confirms that they are the same as the '93 brackets I have.

That being said, I can offer mounts for 89-95 SC's. With the later cars having the option of running the shorter earlier units.

Thanks!

ricardoa1
02-09-2007, 11:43 PM
I have to edit my post. So I dont give the wrong informtion.


I took some pictures to show the difference.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/ricardoa1/brackets001.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/ricardoa1/brackets002.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/ricardoa1/brackets003.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/ricardoa1/brackets004.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/ricardoa1/brackets005.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/ricardoa1/brackets006.jpg

ricardoa1
02-09-2007, 11:46 PM
Can the height be adjusted on the motormounts you are selling.

Chuck W
02-09-2007, 11:48 PM
I understand.
I had a set of 89's to mock up from originally. I have a set of '93's sitting on my desk, and the lower brackets match the ones you took pics of.

So what you are saying is you used the 93-95 Pass side lower with the 89-92 driver lower to drop your engine a bit?

It is very obvious the pass side lower brackets will not interchange.

The height can be adjusted to a point.

ricardoa1
02-09-2007, 11:50 PM
I understand.
I had a set of 89's to mock up from originally. I have a set of '93's sitting on my desk, and the lower brackets match the ones you took pics of.

So what you are saying is you used the 93-95 Pass side lower with the 89-92 driver lower to drop your engine a bit?

It is very obvious the pass side lower brackets will not interchange.

Can the ones you are making be adjusted by removing material of the mount? How about vibration filtration?

Chuck W
02-09-2007, 11:57 PM
Right. Can the ones you are making be adjusted by removing material of the mount? How about vibration filtration?

It's hard to get a good read on the height, but they are slightly lower than stock.

The bushings are not easy to cut down. At least the softer ones aren't.

The vibrations on the V6 aren't that bad, but I do have the two stiffnesses of bushings and am working on a dual durometer set-up that "should" transmit less vibrations.

XxSlowpokexX
02-11-2007, 11:47 PM
Chuck..Anyone with the 4.6 mounts running around for a bird? And how much?


I see the 93 was the same as teh 94/95

L:O)

Damon

Chuck W
02-12-2007, 12:12 AM
Chuck..Anyone with the 4.6 mounts running around for a bird? And how much?


I see the 93 was the same as teh 94/95


Damon

Not sure what you mean about the 4.6 mounts. I'm still getting those worked out. My set of '93's should cover those. Just need to get them done.

As far as how much for the SC ones. They run $135-140/set depending on the bushing stiffness. I do have a set of the prototypes I did (I revised the design a little afterwards). While they're not as "pretty" as they can be, the functionality is fine. They could be had for cheaper. I haven't gotten enough interest yet to run another batch of the SC ones with the revisions, but I will be able to cover all years when I do.

XxSlowpokexX
02-12-2007, 02:41 AM
I thought you already had 4.6 tbird mounts sorry. Doing a motor swap soon in my v8 car

Chuck W
02-12-2007, 01:33 PM
I thought you already had 4.6 tbird mounts sorry. Doing a motor swap soon in my v8 car

I'll have them available soon. They're kind of a complicated thing like the 3.8's were. The driver side is mostly mocked up and the pass side will be similar, but not the same.

ricardoa1
03-12-2007, 08:52 PM
Payment sent. Hoping to get soon, what looks like a great product.

Chuck, you are a very prompt and respectful guy. A+
Thanks

99GSXR750
04-03-2007, 08:39 PM
Chuck,
What kind of feedback have you been getting from the people who've installed them? It's time for headgaskets, and since it'll be apart,I'm going to do the motor mounts.
Do you have any available?
Mike

Chuck W
04-03-2007, 08:58 PM
Well I have 3+ years of feedback from folks who have been using my mounts....just none from the MN-12 guys yet.

I haven't done any more 3.8 mounts as no one has expressed enough interest and I've had other orders to fill on other types...so the money gets spent there. Right now I can't buy a bunch of material and sit on it.

Chuck W
04-04-2007, 10:28 AM
To continue the previous post. I started selling mounts back in Feb '04 and have sold 200+ units covering several platforms. A few small qlitches aside, all of the feedback has been good.


I guess that being said, if enough people (5 sets minimum) want mounts I can do a small group purchase and move these up in priority. It would take commited orders though, not just folks expressing interest that may flake later.

I revised the upper brackets from those shown in the pics to a cleaner design.

The usual turnaround time at this point from the word "go" until I ship on batches is about 4 weeks. I usually request that payments are into me at the 2 week point when all the materials start showing up (or the bulk of the expensive stuff).

To commit to an order, what is required is an email to cwarren@indy.net with your shipping info, car year and bushings wanted (stiff or soft)

They are going to run $155/shipped in the US.

If there isn't enough interest at this time, then I'll do some in the future, just not sure exactly when.

Chuck

99GSXR750
04-04-2007, 11:12 AM
Chuck,
Let me know how the group purchase shapes up. It's not as if I need these mounts tomorrow, but I plan on doing them with in the next month or two.
I'll gladly wait a couple of extra weeks if need be.
Thanks,
Mike

Nettlesd
04-04-2007, 01:26 PM
Are the 94/95 mounts ready? Did you figure out what you needed to do to make them?

Chuck W
04-04-2007, 01:49 PM
Are the 94/95 mounts ready? Did you figure out what you needed to do to make them?
Yes, I just had to sort out some details with the lower brackets.

In talking with the 5.0 guys, there appears to only be two types of lower brackets, 89-92 and 93+. The 94-95's are sorted though.

(By "ready", I mean I can include them in the same group purchase with the earlier ones)

seawalkersee
04-04-2007, 04:21 PM
Duane, if you are going to get a set, let him know that he can include your package in mine. That SHOULD save some on shipping. And I will be able to tell the difference in my mounts from yours since mine will the the new ones and yours will be old and crusty and off of my car....I may have that backwards:D

Chris

ricardoa1
04-15-2007, 09:04 PM
Finished installing these mounts. On my 94. Fit is now perfect. Great product.
Now I think its time to give it some torque and see how they hold up.
Thanks Charles W.

Chuck W
04-15-2007, 09:10 PM
Finished installing these mounts. On my 94. Fit is now perfect. Great product.
Now I think its time to give it some torque and see how they hold up.
Thanks Charles W.

Cool. Glad you got them in.

There doesn't appear to be any interest in the GP as I've had no emails regarding them, so I guess I'll work some in when I can.

Chuck W
04-30-2007, 06:55 PM
OK, say I was to do a small batch of say... 5 sets. Is there any interest? 3 confirmed sets would make it worth my while.

Shoot me an email if so.

Chuck

cwarren@indy.net

ricardoa1
05-01-2007, 10:44 AM
I ran the car with the motormounts, last week. No complaints yet. Top notch.

99GSXR750
05-01-2007, 03:46 PM
OK, say I was to do a small batch of say... 5 sets. Is there any interest? 3 confirmed sets would make it worth my while.

Shoot me an email if so.

Chuck

cwarren@indy.net

If you're going to do them with in the next couple of months, count me in.
Mike

Chuck W
05-01-2007, 03:52 PM
If I get enough interest to do them, I would guess they would be shipping at the latest 6 weeks from now, but most likely sooner.

Mike8675309
05-01-2007, 06:09 PM
Sign me up. What do you need to get the ball rolling.

Chuck W
05-01-2007, 06:55 PM
Everything that is needed to "officially" confirm a set is discussed HERE (http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showpost.php?p=622810&postcount=87). I will not consider a post in this thread as a confirmation. An email with the appropriate info is the only way. It helps me keep things straight and cuts down on flakes. (Even though I had 3 this past month.....)

Thanks

Chuck W
05-03-2007, 09:40 AM
Well I have only received one email confirmation of interest at this point. I'll give it a few more days.

Chuck W
05-03-2007, 10:59 AM
Well as of 5 minutes ago, I have 4 confirmed sets. I will order the lasered stuff on Mon. If I don't get any more emails, I'm just going to do 5 sets this time around. If I get a couple more, I'll do 10.

Thanks
Chuck

Chuck W
05-03-2007, 06:19 PM
Well I have 7 confirmed sets. I'll be ordering lasered parts for 10.

Thanks to the folks who have ordered.

Chuck W
05-07-2007, 12:09 PM
Placed the order for the lasered parts today. I'll be in contact with the folks who have placed orders.

Thanks

Chuck W
06-06-2007, 11:11 PM
OK, the orders for this current batch are going to be shipping by the first of next week

Here's a couple pics of what the revised mounts look like.

http://www.turbochuck.com/images/Motor%20Mounts/Type%208/Type%208rev_1.JPG
http://www.turbochuck.com/images/Motor%20Mounts/Type%208/Type%208rev_2.JPG

Mike8675309
06-07-2007, 08:39 PM
Looks really nice Chuck. Thanks for taking the time to make a product like this available to us guys.

99GSXR750
06-13-2007, 02:32 PM
Chuck,
Got my mounts today and they look great! Thanks for including all new hardware too. Hopefully, they fit as good as they look - won't know for a couple of weeks though.
Mike

Mike8675309
06-14-2007, 07:07 PM
Mine arrived as well. Can't wait to put them in with the motor.


Thanks

Super XR7
06-14-2007, 07:13 PM
Mine also arrived today. Nice work.

Mike

XR7 Dave
06-17-2007, 03:53 PM
Other than Ricardo, has anybody else installed and run these mounts? I'm curious how much increased harshness or vibration there is. Has anybody installed them in a car that is quiet? Obviously if you have a loud exhaust your perceptions will be different. My car is very quiet and smooth with a mellow suspension, cats, resonator, mufflers, stock blower, etc. I don't want to alter that.

Chuck W
06-17-2007, 04:12 PM
Other than Ricardo, has anybody else installed and run these mounts? I'm curious how much increased harshness or vibration there is. Has anybody installed them in a car that is quiet? Obviously if you have a loud exhaust your perceptions will be different. My car is very quiet and smooth with a mellow suspension, cats, resonator, mufflers, stock blower, etc. I don't want to alter that.

I think only one or two SC guys has gotten them installed. There are LOTS more in service though in other applications.

I am working on another bushing, which may prove to be a more desireable optio n for folks like yourself. It's a dual durometer piece. I have my protos in my 83 turbo Tbird and I can already tell a difference over the original "stiff" bushings I had in there. The 2.3 is a much rougher engine than most though, esp. at idle.

XxSlowpokexX
06-18-2007, 01:06 AM
Chuck,

I pm'd ya. My only concern is when and if the bushing gets old worn and ripsor tears is there any means for the mount nor completely collapsing?

If not I;m sure it would be an easy design modification

Chuck W
06-18-2007, 07:28 AM
These mounts will not "rip or tear" as they don't act in tension at all. As far as collapsing goes there is just not enough force to completely destroy the poly bushing by "smashing" it. The worse case is that the bushing itself may take a "set" after a couple years and be a slight be shorter, but that's it. I had my original set in use for 3-4 years and I just replaced them this past year mainly because I wanted to use new bushings, not because there was any 'structural" problem with them.

XR7 Dave
06-18-2007, 09:01 AM
I think what Damon is thinking about is how the poly rear diff bushings that are so popular on this site all smash and fall apart. They don't act under tension either but the rotational force on the diff destroys them in short order.

Chuck, do you drag race your car? Roughly how much power does it make?

Chuck W
06-18-2007, 09:24 AM
I've never had anyone destroy a bushing.

My car is not drag raced (not my thing), but my mounts are in use by guys who do. I don't have specs on all 200+ customer's cars, but I know of guys in the 400-450hp range drag racing them prety regularly without issue.

XR7 Dave
06-18-2007, 09:38 AM
That's good to know. If someone damged one would you provide a replacement insert?

Chuck W
06-18-2007, 09:49 AM
That's good to know. If someone damged one would you provide a replacement insert?

If it ever came to that, yes.

Another reason that these hold up better than the diff bushings probably has to do with the much larger surface area over which any force is distributed. Poly is pretty strong/durable stuff. I also made sure I spec'ed mine for higher temp, underhood applications.

NY90RedSC
06-20-2007, 11:26 AM
I'm sorry I missed this group purchase. Looks like I'll be doing motor mounts on the 90 SC I just picked up while I'm doing the head gaskets. I thought I'd do them just for preventive maintenance so I don't have to tear everything down again in the future. :(

Mike8675309
07-19-2007, 10:15 PM
Review -

I put these mounts in my 93 and so far they are working just fine. Yes, you do feel more vibration. Not really in the car like steering wheel or anything. Basically I just notice it in the gear shift.

They work as expected and are perfect so far.

Chuck W
07-19-2007, 10:29 PM
I'm sorry I missed this group purchase. Looks like I'll be doing motor mounts on the 90 SC I just picked up while I'm doing the head gaskets. I thought I'd do them just for preventive maintenance so I don't have to tear everything down again in the future. :(

If I have enough interest I'll do another small batch.

Mike, glad you like them. I don't remember which stiffness you bought, but yes there will be some more vibrations transmitted. My newer dual-durometer bushings may offer some more relief in that respect, but I want more testing before I release them.

Mike8675309
07-22-2007, 10:00 PM
...

Mike, glad you like them. I don't remember which stiffness you bought, but yes there will be some more vibrations transmitted. My newer dual-durometer bushings may offer some more relief in that respect, but I want more testing before I release them.


Hmm, didn't specify a stiffness, wasn't aware there was a choice. But anyway, they work just fine. Much less movement in the motor than a similar car with the solid version of the rubber motor mounts.

Chuck W
07-22-2007, 10:05 PM
Hmm, didn't specify a stiffness, wasn't aware there was a choice. But anyway, they work just fine. Much less movement in the motor than a similar car with the solid version of the rubber motor mounts.

Checking your order, you got the "stiff" bushings.


If there is enough interest, I'll fire up another batch of these. Email me (cwarren@indy.net) so I can keep better track.

Thanks

XxSlowpokexX
07-23-2007, 12:37 PM
Got my mounts..Putting them in this saturday..Will update with a thumbs up or down//Allthough Im thinking being mien is ripped in half it will be two thumbs up haha!

Flex
07-23-2007, 01:28 PM
If I have enough interest I'll do another small batch.

Mike, glad you like them. I don't remember which stiffness you bought, but yes there will be some more vibrations transmitted. My newer dual-durometer bushings may offer some more relief in that respect, but I want more testing before I release them.



Chuck,
More details on this new bushing please. Any updates?

Chuck W
07-23-2007, 01:33 PM
Chuck,
More details on this new bushing please. Any updates?

Not much in the way of update on the bushings. Need to do more testing on my car before I say Yay or Nay.

It's a dual durometer bushing that is part 70A and part 45A. Initial vibration testing is good, but I want to check the longevity of the softer material before it takes a "set".

seawalkersee
09-25-2007, 09:29 AM
Anything yet as far as tests? I have been looking forward to getting mine.

Chris

Chuck W
09-25-2007, 09:34 AM
Anything yet as far as tests? I have been looking forward to getting mine.

Chris

I haven't forgotten about you Chris. I've got some bushings on order and I should be able to get that early set out to you as promised.

Mike8675309
09-25-2007, 10:03 AM
Just a follow-up. The mounts continue to hold up well. I made 11 passes at a track on Sunday and checking the mounts after, I see no sign of anything bad. Not exactly a torque monster, but for folks that were wondering, they certainly will last more than one time at the track.

(As we know, the stock replacement mounts sometimes wouldn't last past one trip to the track on a modified car)

Chuck W
10-20-2007, 07:56 PM
Guys.

I started welding today on a new small batch of these.

Pricing is now $175.shipped in the US. Email me at cwarren@indy.net if you would like a set. Shipping will probably be 2-3 weeks as I wait on bushings.

Thanks!

Chuck W
10-28-2007, 07:45 PM
Should have bushing in a couple weeks and be ready to ship.

teal945.0
11-16-2007, 09:23 PM
Chuck, I bought a set of your 5.0l mounts some time ago. I am happy with them so far. Can you make me a set of solid metal inserts to convert the mounts to solid.

Dahoopd
03-09-2013, 12:24 PM
Chuck,

You haven't been on since 11-16-2012 but if you happen to peruse the site. Im in need of another set. I sent an email to the one you have posted.