View Full Version : Production start on LECB's and rear torsional load brace's

09-09-2007, 03:30 PM
Hey guys Ive been doing some research on suspension bracing and after many hit or miss opportunities on acquiring a set for my own Cougar Im starting production on a ECB and a TLB here are some pictures of them Im quite honestly tired of hearing well ask this guy or see if kenny brown is making them again and researching parts no one can find...I have built a jig for both of these products and can make them for as little as $60 each shipped not the 130 shipped like some places are charging for there design LECB's so let me know There will be no month wait it takes me about a day to make either the RTLB or the LECB's and it will be shipped within 3 days to your door.All that is required is a $10 dollar deposit to begin the part you want and that will be used for shipping Pm me or contact me @ 973-827-2053 Outlaw kustoms or post a message on here I will do Paypal or M/O heres the pictures

09-09-2007, 03:35 PM
Ps the production on these will also not be discontinued or siezed as long as I am physically able to make these products I will .Just dont ask me in 50 years I might not be able to get out of my bed by then let alone weld :D

09-09-2007, 03:54 PM
I already have a set of the LECB, and they are awaiting for me to install them, but I am interested in what the other brace you are making is supposed to do. I am in the process of putting together my '90 Annie 5 speed. It is going to be as stock appearing as possible (with the exception on the Tokiko lowering springs I'll be putting into it), and will be running the motor in about stock form as well. I read that the LECB will help prevent the cracking of the firewall over time. Just looking for the benefit of the other part you offer..

From the picture, it looks like it may be the lowest part of the car. I'd worry about dragging it on speed bumps or the like. Is it the lowest point??


09-09-2007, 04:05 PM
No it is not the lowest point on the car, my car is lowered 2" and has not touched yet the benefit of this brace is that it keeps the weak rear lower control arm pivot points (rear mounts) from flexing it aids in the pursuit to stop wheelhop and provides more stable and predictable handling in the rear of the car....kenny brown and johnny made braces kenny browns are made in square 1x1" steel I believe but have since stopped production as far as I can tell ,Mine are made from stronger tubular steel 4130 chromoly the same as the lighter version rollcages are made from, tubular is far better as it also resists twisting found in square stock the LECB's are made in square stock but they arent prone to twisting just pull and push forces of the K-member also mine are quite cheaper then the others

09-09-2007, 07:41 PM
How do the rear ones mount??? I can't tell from the photo. Is it a bolt on, or welded on?

09-09-2007, 09:21 PM
all braces are bolt on the ECB's need a tab welded to the front subframe rails but is very easy my design also clears larger down tubes and is unboltable from the k-member and the tab ....the TLB is a complete bolt on and uses existing holes in that area

09-10-2007, 11:35 AM
looks good. Why are your front braces in need of a trab welded whereas the SCP ones dont.


PS sorry about the caps :O)

09-10-2007, 05:12 PM
Mine are not the same as SCP performance's though in theory they work alike to produce the same end result

09-10-2007, 06:43 PM
anyone else interested ?....reserve yours now

Duffy Floyd
09-10-2007, 08:19 PM
E Mail address for PayPal please? Have any way to powder coat them before shipping? If so...added cost?

09-10-2007, 08:52 PM
I have access to powder coating but i'd need a minimum order of 50 pieces to lower the price otherwise it would be to much per part right now there painted with por15 to protect against rust...I could get them powder coated for ya if you want but honestly you'd probably better off finding someone in your area just for now.... Im gonna be making rear shock tower braces as well and will post a picture once the 1st production is created...And since I just took out a loan to make these I will make around 50 ahead of them so all you guys have to do is Pm me a shipping address your phone# and what brace(s) you want then Paypal or send me a M/O for the price of the part which will remain at $60 for each one (ECB's are a set) and they will be sent out asap ....no excuses ....I do however prefer M/o sent priority mail with confirmation # its much more safe I dont trust using my credit card on the internet and as soon as you pm me a confirmation # your part will go out...I already have around 10 of each set made and I am going to make more tomorrow so you guys dont have to wait on them...


09-10-2007, 09:18 PM
Forgot to mention I will cut you guys a deal if you buy the RLB and the ECB's I will knock $10 off the total sale ...thanx again guys..Keith

09-11-2007, 08:38 PM
anyone else interested?

09-11-2007, 09:21 PM
how much to ship the rear brace to ontario canada


09-11-2007, 09:30 PM
It'd be $15 to ship..


09-11-2007, 10:36 PM
Im working right now with Preston at www.braincoating.com to offer various powdercoating colors and I already have lined up a local chroming company standard black is $60 shipped
triple chromed is $80 shipped
Im waiting on a price per part for powder coating shouldnt be that bad though probably cheaper than the chromed versions...I'm working on a front suspension brace that ties into the ECB to triangulate the K-member and tie it into the frame and a rear shock tower brace as well.After these things sell a little more Im going to fab some subframe connectors made from tubular 4130 most likely...Oh and just to mention these parts are built on a jig so no worries on fitment issues the TLB will clear 2x1/2" exhaust for anyone wondering Had a few ask about that...lemme know guys thank you

09-12-2007, 03:49 PM
subframes would be great..Strut tower brace??

09-12-2007, 05:24 PM
I dont believe a strut tower brace is really necessary the upper control arms take care of keeping the spindle in line everyone assumes since the mustangs have one the thunderbirds and cougar could use one to but there really not needed ...if anyone can prove me wrong I'd be willing to make them but I'd need to see some kind of data with motion of the strut towers ....seems like no one is interested in buying any of these braces though....I keep getting a yea i want'em and then nothing...well I'll give it one more week if i dont sell any im closing production on them

09-13-2007, 01:19 AM
Where to send deposit to on rear brace.

Also Kenny brown had felt the need to create a strut tower brace and my v8 supercharged car has a mighty fine crack in the firewala conbination of the lower bracing with the strut tower bracing (that attatches to the firewall) may tie it all together well.

09-13-2007, 03:46 PM
I also have the crack on my firewall on my 1994 SC .. I believe the LECB's tied from the subframe to the frame of the car will help, as well as a Shock tower brace to help tie it together.
Ive installed the Shock tower brace on a 1990 SC that SCP sells, not sure who makes it, but I believe it is of inferior quality and wont do anything for the SC or any other Tbird for that matter .. when you stand it on end, you can bend it without much effort. Not exactly a stiffening brace.

- Dan

09-13-2007, 04:30 PM
If I where to make one of them i'd use good old fashioned chromoly 4130 like yet very strong as for deposits Damon Im not taking any deposits I've come into a lil money working overtime at my reg job so I have a bunch of these made you can just pay now wait what like 3 days and it'll be to your house price is $60 for either or 110 for both I'd prefer money order as I feel its safer as I have been reading on the windows website that they found a security flaw in paypal where if you send a specific message to the paypal computers it sends a list of yahoo mail subscribers accounts I dont feel quite safe doing it that way...heres my address
Keith bachman
128 main street apt D
franklin,N.J. 07416

Anyway if you send the money order priority mail with a confirmation # then pm me with that number I will send out the brace before the money comes


09-13-2007, 07:16 PM
Keith I'll get a MO out to you. Interested in welding some tabs on my car so I can do the lower braces? :O)..Im in Queens NY

09-13-2007, 08:50 PM
Sure whens good for you?...

fast Ed
09-14-2007, 09:39 AM
Keith, I'll be looking for a set of these later in the year.

Ed N.

09-14-2007, 11:06 AM
Keith PM'd ya

09-16-2007, 12:25 PM
Now accepting paypal blown94cougar@yahoo.com

09-17-2007, 09:36 PM
Subframe connectors are in the works within the next 2 weeks I will be done testing the ones I have fabricated and will again post a picture of them if anyone is interested PM me on them....these are not cheesy ones either they really work and start halfway on the front subframe for more stiffening of the frame and connect to a solid rear section ...they are 1 piece and do not connect to the weak crossbrace bolts like other designs pricing will be at $75-80 a pair only to cover shipping costs as they are a lil heavier....Also Im now offering the service of boxing your rear upper control arms or selling you a set preboxed...what this does is eliminate wheel hop,it keeps the top joint on the knuckle where it connects to the upper control arm from swaying for and aft with torque it also makes it even more stable combined with one of my rear torsional load brace...price for boxing a pair of yours is $40+ shipping $70 for preboxed if you dont want to pull yours out simply swap the ones I send you in and your set Pm me for this as well...Thanx,Keith

09-17-2007, 11:29 PM
have you thought about making the front pieces to the LECBs like Johnny made?? Or is that what you are talking about in post #16

09-18-2007, 08:02 PM
No thats not what I was talking about and yes i've already made some ,there priced at $50 a set and fit cars already equipped with my ECB's ,johnny langtons, kenny browns and supercoupe performances. Mine are not similar in design But they produce the same end result

09-20-2007, 04:08 AM
Im interested, sent you a PM with details!;)

09-22-2007, 01:13 PM
Ive got a bunch of these things made Im now offering the front suspension brace that goes from the hole that the lecb bolts to in the Kmember to the front of the Kmember where the tension strut bolts through...price on that is $60 also offering a rear shock tower brace made from tubular bolt in $70 available soon subframe connectors.


front suspension brace-$60
rear shock tower brace-$70
subrame connectors ...coming soon.

09-26-2007, 03:55 PM
front suspension piece's and ECB's are now available in a kit form $105.oo for the kit comes with everything you need ...and Im about a day or 2 away from releasing the sub-connectors...I'll post pics then as well

09-27-2007, 06:19 PM

When can I swing on by?

09-27-2007, 07:08 PM
hmmn good question well hows next weekend sound seems clear for the most part? as of right now Im switching jobs and things are real hectic ...does that work for ya? Pm me

09-30-2007, 04:46 PM
already did thanx for the heads up though

10-01-2007, 11:20 AM
Keith just paypaled you the money for the braces.Shoot me a PM when they ship.Thanks


10-01-2007, 03:44 PM
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