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DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-20-2007, 10:26 PM
#1 The SCP airbox was not a restriction on my motor and I ran identical times with and without.

#2 Going to the track with a 5speed SC and a bad motor mount is asking for eventual trouble and makes for interesting launches

#3 91mph in the quarter feels extremely slow!
KwikGSeX
10-20-2007, 10:52 PM
#4. You could of had drag radials today if you but opened your mouth

#5. You need to change out those 20k old copper plugs to ones that will give you back your power

#6. Put an AOD in that thing
Ira R.
10-20-2007, 11:36 PM
7. Juice it. You need to run it on juice :D

8. Bring it to E*Town Wed night and practice, practice, practice.


Ira
CMac89
10-20-2007, 11:41 PM
9. Call that boy Millz dat Killz and have him change that mount.

10. Sticky Mickeys will set you free.

11. Drive it good n hard!!

12. Get that piano off your back, POPS!!!
Miller
10-20-2007, 11:43 PM
yea WED FTW. im plannin on skipping work completly, goign to dmv 4 some stuffs and takin the ride in wingman style
Ira R.
10-20-2007, 11:50 PM
yea WED FTW. im plannin on skipping work completly, goign to dmv 4 some stuffs and takin the ride in wingman style

Jason, send me a PM with your email address, please. PM's take too damn long to have a converstaion.


Ira
Miller
10-20-2007, 11:52 PM
Ira, i dont use my email! PM meeee is fastest way, or on AIM if ya have it LYLi11er
XR7 Dave
10-20-2007, 11:53 PM
#1 The SCP airbox was not a restriction on my motor and I ran identical times with and without.


If all you are running is 91mph then a stock airbox probably isn't a restriction either.
Miller
10-20-2007, 11:55 PM
Blahblahblah
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-21-2007, 01:45 PM
If all you are running is 91mph then a stock airbox probably isn't a restriction either.

Key thing was on MY MOTOR..Im sure it be a restriction on a 2,500hp turbo motor :O)

Dennis you have my jack!..Actually checking plugs now..Had already bought new one...But I cant jack up my car!!!!
Scott Long
10-21-2007, 05:00 PM
Drag radials on 5-speed not a good idea. You read about Jeramie (92Bird)'s recent problem with his 5-speed on drag radials? If you are just going to slip the clutch and use them for traction then maybe you'll be alright but to just rev and dump things will break.

But then again you aren't making the power that Jeramie's car is.

But yeah, like D said, throw an auto in it :D
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-21-2007, 05:42 PM
No auto in this bad boy itsnot a drag car. And dumping the clutch is not my idea of a good time.

pulled afew plugs they looked fine..Wonder whatthat vobration could be..Balancer looks fine also..hmmmm
FKR water boy
10-23-2007, 09:58 AM
pulled afew plugs they looked fine

change them anyways, they're cheap :)
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-23-2007, 10:40 AM
Yes they are getting changed....Now I need to get those mounts done to do a trip to Cecil...Drag radials..Mounts..New plugs..Im thinking low 14's!
Ira R.
10-23-2007, 11:04 AM
E*Town, tomorrow night!! Maybe Sunday too :D

Ira
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-23-2007, 11:20 AM
Weekdays no good and mounts wont be done..If I can do mounts maybe Sunday!
KwikGSeX
10-23-2007, 01:51 PM
Yes they are getting changed....Now I need to get those mounts done to do a trip to Cecil...Drag radials..Mounts..New plugs..Im thinking low 14's!



Nov 17 is track rental day at Cecil County.. Either Jr's Eclipse is going or we are bringing FKR one more time with a bigger hit..
Ira R.
10-23-2007, 03:22 PM
Nov 17 is track rental day at Cecil County.. Either Jr's Eclipse is going or we are bringing FKR one more time with a bigger hit..

Can't get the time. Gotta do it this week or wait until next year. Not willing to wait....

Ira
x182dan
10-23-2007, 05:54 PM
so damon what did the beast run?
Miller
10-23-2007, 06:22 PM
15.000000000000000000000000000

we's got problems hah
x182dan
10-23-2007, 07:24 PM
15.000000000000000000000000000

we's got problems hah


well its better than my sc i did 15.4@94mph I somehow was 4mph faster but .4 slower and damon thinks he had wheelhop issues
tim
10-23-2007, 10:07 PM
Damon put that blower on and a 150 shot of nitrous. Dennis can show you how to use the nitrous. Let Junior drive, Tim
XR7 Dave
10-23-2007, 10:10 PM
well its better than my sc i did 15.4@94mph I somehow was 4mph faster but .4 slower and damon thinks he had wheelhop issues

I thought that the new tires cured the wheel hop issue?:confused:
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-24-2007, 12:50 AM
I actually had no wheelhop at the track. WHat I did have was only three runs to sort things out.

Run 1

Launched off idle..Hooked so well it kind of just bogged...15.3

Run2

Launches a bit higher and loaded the clutch. My motor mount didnt like that to much. Nose went up...Engine went up...Engine slammed back down...bogged...15.0 at 91mph

Run 3

Heck Hooking so well I think I'll really launch it. 60 foot times were only 2.4 and 2.3 respectively....I rev to about 2500, load the clutch...take off..Car jerks (no spin)...Engine comes slamming back down...Bogs..Then blows the tires off....15.4 with a 2.6 60 foot...Was motor hop not wheel hop issues

Now I didnt get to play with shift points to much however first run was at 5000 last two at 5500. Last run I pulled my scp air box off.

Now I know I need to change that mount out and that will get me into the 14's. by itself. It was causing some crazy things to happen

I never miss a gear and ripped the shifts perfect.

What gets me is the 91mph in the last two runs. I think run 1 was 89

I figured it should have been higher. Feels great on the highway but at the track it seems to just not pull up top. I'm thinking the mount had allot to do with it. Poor 60 foot times definitely would effect my top end and teh engine slamming could have potentially caused my knock sensor to kick in??..No idea...But next time at track will be with some new plugs motor mounts....And then some drag radials. Just want to get a nice baseline before I do some stuff to it....Then Im going to get some more numbers...Then its getting ripped apart. I'm putting my shelf wares to good use this year:O)
patragz22
10-24-2007, 09:17 AM
guys don't forget, next weekend starting nov. 2-4 it is FORDS at e-town.
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-24-2007, 09:48 AM
Yes I'm thinking about it...
Ira R.
10-24-2007, 11:18 AM
Can't get there for that but I am really thinking of going to T&T this Sunday. Especially now that today is a washout. Figures.......

Ira
BLOWN38
10-24-2007, 02:43 PM
Can't get there for that but I am really thinking of going to T&T this Sunday. Especially now that today is a washout. Figures.......

Ira

Practice up I..DOG!! Got alot of catchin up to do.:D I'll let ya know if I need a cage after Nov. 3rd. Trans is all fixed and have a line on a converter.

If Atlanta is lookin like a wash, we'll head up to E-Town.

Damon, I'm assuming your runnin the teal car? Get it fixed up and back at the track. Good luck next time out.
Ira R.
10-24-2007, 03:06 PM
Practice up I..DOG!! Got alot of catchin up to do.:D I'll let ya know if I need a cage after Nov. 3rd. Trans is all fixed and have a line on a converter.

If Atlanta is lookin like a wash, we'll head up to E-Town.

Damon, I'm assuming your runnin the teal car? Get it fixed up and back at the track. Good luck next time out.

Good luck in Atlanta Chris! I know that's the Southern Shoot Out on Nov 3rd so I guess we'll wait and see how the new transmission holds up. Kick some Chevy butt!!

Roll cage huh?? :eek: :D

Ira
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-24-2007, 03:30 PM
Yes going to get the teal car out. I'm a little nervous to really beat the heck out of her on the dig. SOmething about 4000 lbs and a 5 speed just makes me feel weasy. But I'd like to get a good understanding of where it sits now..We shall seeee
95badbird
10-24-2007, 03:44 PM
Damon, the lower the 60' on a run, will always net a lower MPH.
Mike8675309
10-24-2007, 09:11 PM
Track vs street at the top of the track.

#1 High Intake Air Charge Temps
#2 Shift points too high, outside the power band.

oh, and bogging at the line will kill mph at the end. Wheel spin at the line can actually help mph at the end, but hurts ET.
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-24-2007, 11:07 PM
Funny thing is regardless of my shift point or 60 foot I still netted approximately the same mph. It just seems way off. I really need a test and tune day to really play with teh shift point and launch variables
Slysc
10-25-2007, 10:24 AM
Damon,

You have a car that runs?!! You've been holding out on us all these years.
Welcome back to the world of racing real cars. This will be exciting!! Not that talking about racing isn't exciting but really racing a car, that's cool.:D
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-25-2007, 11:22 AM
I've had this SC for over a year now Dan. Commone now. I just havent hacked it apart
Ira R.
10-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Bring it Sunday!! All the best people will be there!

Ira
Miller
10-25-2007, 11:43 AM
Im game for this sunday. Round everybody up... I'll try and get Jay from the R-Head to come out with us too


ps- damon if your taking your real car we are swaping blowers for the day. I dont care what u say, bitch
David Neibert
10-25-2007, 11:46 AM
Im game for this sunday. Round everybody up... I'll try and get Jay from the R-Head to come out with us too


ps- damon if your taking your real car we are swaping blowers for the day. I dont care what u say, bitch

Miller,

Have you gotten that AR installed yet ?

David
Miller
10-25-2007, 11:48 AM
............no..........
Im still waiting to get my A-Bracket.. BLAH... i was going to do it last weekend, had dennis comign over to help. then I remembered i didnt have it and started throwing things around the house....:mad:

he says ship it monday when he gets home, but..... we'll see
Ira R.
10-25-2007, 11:58 AM
Im game for this sunday. Round everybody up... I'll try and get Jay from the R-Head to come out with us too


ps- damon if your taking your real car we are swaping blowers for the day. I dont care what u say, bitch

Speak with Dennis and set it up. He needs someone from the north shore to meet him at the house.

Ira
KwikGSeX
10-25-2007, 12:22 PM
Speak with Dennis and set it up. He needs someone from the north shore to meet him at the house.

Ira

I'm perfectly capable of getting to etown by myself Ira thank you very much. Lol. Who knows maybe ill race the electric truck and beat damons sc in the process.
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-25-2007, 12:29 PM
I'm perfectly capable of getting to etown by myself Ira thank you very much. Lol. Who knows maybe ill race the electric truck and beat damons sc in the process.

If that happens Im burning it
XR7 Dave
10-25-2007, 12:42 PM
............no..........
Im still waiting to get my A-Bracket.. BLAH... i was going to do it last weekend, had dennis comign over to help. then I remembered i didnt have it and started throwing things around the house....:mad:

he says ship it monday when he gets home, but..... we'll see

Ah hell just put the thing on without it. Nothing that a hose clamp and a couple straps from HD won't fix.
Miller
10-25-2007, 12:58 PM
Can I live without it for a few days ? in the directions you gave me you made it sound like the bracket is crucial for getting it in the right spot.... i had joked aroudn with casey sayin im gonan use a ratchet strap to tie it down hah... if i can live without it for a few days i'll throw that facker on
XR7 Dave
10-25-2007, 01:19 PM
If it doesn't work you can always do like Damon and burn it. :eek: Maybe just stick a block of wood in there for support. I dunno.

















PS. I wouldn't take everything you read on hte intrwaweeb seriously.
Miller
10-25-2007, 02:10 PM
ps. i wasnt really going to put it on without it. ratchetstrap around oil pan was a jk




things i read on the "intraweb get a grain of salt http://www.personal.psu.edu/mah37/pictures/outreach04/salt.bmp

this i read on the sccoa...http://www.bebereviews.com/salt%20i%20stock.jpg
:D:D:D:D:D
DamonSlowpokeBaumann
10-25-2007, 03:20 PM
Miller...Seriously it wouldnt be to hard to make something to support and center the snout. It just wont look all that pretty..We can wait though...
KwikGSeX
10-25-2007, 03:37 PM
Miller...Seriously it wouldnt be to hard to make something to support and center the snout. It just wont look all that pretty..We can wait though...

You have 2 weeks.
Miller
10-25-2007, 03:44 PM
i doubt I'll have the bracket within 2 weeks by how quickly the other stuff was shipped out, and i cant afford the $100 for a new one...
KwikGSeX
10-25-2007, 03:51 PM
i doubt I'll have the bracket within 2 weeks by how quickly the other stuff was shipped out, and i cant afford the $100 for a new one...

I got rachet straps and a stick welder.. We can make it work :)
Miller
10-25-2007, 04:02 PM
JB weld it to the intake.

my accord balancer fell off and stripped out keyway on crank. I put half a tube of JB weld on inside of pulley, around the crank, on the keyway, put some on the bolt and cranked it down as tight as possible.. let sit for 2 days... probably like 10k miles later, goin stronggggggggggggggggg
CMac89
10-25-2007, 06:30 PM
Guys!

THE GD BELT HOLDS IT DOWN!!!
Miller
10-25-2007, 07:21 PM
So What Your Reallllllllllllllllly Trying To Say Is
David Neibert
10-26-2007, 12:21 AM
Miller,

Maybe Randy Baker will loan you his support bracket for a couple weeks.

David
Miller
10-26-2007, 12:30 AM
O0o0o0o thad be very nice of him.. I'd like to have the AR on by the NOV 17th track rental... otherwise its wait till next year and thats no fun. :(

I really wish i would have gotten it after the month+ wait to get the ar shipped out...he says he's shipping it on monday, but theres been alot of tomorrow tomorrow tomorrows with this deal.... =(