blue wrx

[thunderbird96]

I went to ryan's last night to hang out.
His mom cook's real good,but anyway we went out cruising.
on 291 we saw a lot cars out but everyone going the wrong direction,finally a blue wrx pulls along side and is pacing me.I wait for him to go and doesn't.
he get's on to 50hwy and i follow. he get me on the highway for a few seconds and im gaining on him. He get's off on next exit. I follow finally we are on some 55mph higway.Im pacing him he jumps forward and i hit it.
im pulling on him soon as he here's my blower he stops and turns around.
lol would't keep going.:D

[traveler]

Jason, I can't speak for the drivers behavior (He may have just been wondering why you were following him) but if it was a Subaru WRX, he wouldn't have been worried about hearing your blower. Those things are QUICK.

[racecougar]

So you were following/chasing after someone, and you wonder why they're trying to evade you (getting on/off highway, hitting the throttle, changing directions)? :confused: It sounds like he never had any intention of racing you, and was freaked out by you following him.

-Rod

[Melon]

I'm with Rod on this one.. I'm surprised he didn't call the cops and try to get you for harrassment. And if it was a WRX, it probably could have handed you your tail.

If you choose to race on the street - let the races come to you, don't go looking for them. Save you some time and lets you pick your races a bit easier so maybe you can avoid embarassment.

-Melon

[2TonCat]

You guys are no fun. :(

This is Kansas City. Everyone with anything remotely similar to a sports car will race. It was kids driving too. They downshifted and lunged, so Jason jammed the throttle... Blower whine could be heard for miles... The subaru let off, and turned. Believe what you want.

Oh, and WRXs only run 15-14s. You're thinking of STIs. This was a normal blue bugeye.

[Melon]

I wasn't sure how much of the truth Jason was telling.. he likes to stretch it sometimes.Kinda like.. well, never mind :D

And I thought they were quicker than that? Even in stock form though, Jason would haveta try hard to get him.

-Melon

[2TonCat]

Bastard WRX sure did haul ~~~ around the turn onto the highway... had the thing sideways in an AWD drift for a short time....

Jason shouldn't have too much trouble catching them from a roll... I've got a timeslip of Me vs One of those same generation cars... (Possibly the same exact one)... He ran a 15.0. I beat his 60" time in the cougar.

[Thunder95]

Wow... Jason you'd think after having a court appearence you'd settle it down on the fast and furious BS. Maye you'll lose your car before you get it right.:rolleyes:

-Joel

[sinhumane]

lol. i think he has talked to marc... heard some of the stories about jason... ;)


btw, i wouldnt doubt it would be a close race... i had an encounter wiht what looked like a mildly modded non-sti wrx. once we got going on the highway, neither of us gained on the other.... i prolly wouldve gotten him had we gone up past 120.

[2TonCat]

The lines are well defined in this group. :(

[Thunder95]

I'm just saying... I wouldn't want to be riding a bike, or walking on a street where Jason is trying to chase down a wrx or anything else. We all know his on/off style. I don't even feel all the way comfortable driving around that kinda stuff. If you want to race, then take it to a track. I'm not saying I'm not going to goose it a little from a red light against a camaro or anything, but to go out looking for trouble, endangering other people, chasing other cars on public roads... that's just dumb. He's already been caught and had a court appearence... what else is it going to take to make him listen up? We gonna have to scrape someone out from under his car? Is he going to have to total it, or someone else's car? I know you guys think it's all fun and games... and don't get me wrong it is fun... but it takes a half a second for that situation to go waaaaaaay south.

-Joel

[2TonCat]

http://www.cushcity.com/images/9999930031.jpg

Preach it sista! :rolleyes:

[Thunder95]

Oh please Ry...:rolleyes: I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's just not the smartest thing a guy can do in his car... they have laws against it for a reason. Jason's track record isn't shiny clean either.

Thats another thing to do when I wil the lottery... private track for all of us... open year round.

-Joel

[2TonCat]

Dood... If you build us a track, you're totally my hero forever...

It just seemed like you were preaching at the guy.I know you don't like him, but he knows what he's doing, and knows the possible consequences.

Where he was harassing the WRX was considerably safer than the imfamous shortroad that he likes racing at.

[traveler]

I've thought of the whole "private track" thing. Buy a large tract of land, build a great house with a 5-car garage and a private track that can double as a private air strip. :D

[2TonCat]

Planes take up too much driveway space. Thats what airports are for :D

[Thunder95]

Dood... If you build us a track, you're totally my hero forever...

It just seemed like you were preaching at the guy.I know you don't like him, but he knows what he's doing, and knows the possible consequences.

Where he was harassing the WRX was considerably safer than the imfamous shortroad that he likes racing at.

Who says I don't like him? I like Jason just fine... sure we spar at times but I have no beef with the guy. All I am saying is IMO... the consequences arent worth the risk of what could happen.

Oh yes, I will build a track. "If you build it... midwest sccoa will come"

-Joel

[traveler]

Planes take up too much driveway space. Thats what airports are for :D

Tell that to John Travolta. He keeps a 707 at his house! (along with lessor business jets and small private planes)

[2TonCat]

Oh yes, I will build a track. "If you build it... midwest sccoa will come"
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

But no planes. Ok? Michael?

[Thunder95]

Tell that to John Travolta. He keeps a 707 at his house! (along with lessor business jets and small private planes)

Ironically also, where recently a street racing wreck occured causing 5 deaths! Bimmer m5.

-Joel

[Thunder95]

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

But no planes. Ok? Michael?

So I ran an 8 second 1/4 mile time this weekend!

What?! HOW?!

No biggie... a jet landed on me.

-Joel

[SuperCharged91]

Buy a F-22 and take it down the 1/4mile:D

[2TonCat]

Ironically also, where recently a street racing wreck occured causing 5 deaths! Bimmer m5.

-Joel

I wouldn't necisarilly call it a race.....

And I'm not sure I call it a street either....
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=111545

[traveler]

Well, if it was being used as a drag strip, then I'd be racing. Therefore I wouldn't be going anywhere (and I sure wouldn't just be arriving) so it wouldn't be used as a runway and a drag strip simultaneously.

And a private dragstrip is just as likely to have "uninvited" guests as a runway or any other long, straight, flat stretch of asphalt.

Sorry guys, but my dad and I are also fans of aircraft.

[2TonCat]

I can see it now....

"LOL Guys, this assho1e in my neighborhood just built a dragstrip in his back yard!"

"Hahaha, Lets go land on it with our planes... That'll really piss him off!"

"Yeah! We'll sure show him!"

[traveler]

LOL I wasn't really referring to uninvited planes so much as uninvited "racers" such as the BMW incident. The FAA tends to regulate "uninvited, or unanounced" landings more than the Police regulate uninvited racers. There are SEVERE fines and penalties involved for just "dropping" in any ol' place.

[thunderbird96]

if you want to fly planes join the airforce mike.!!!!!
that was my first time street racing on a real street.
The one i got a ticket for was total bs cause we were not even going over posted said speed limit. the cop was a total idiot. I could have fought it if i wanted to but wasn't worth losing a day of work.


I PREFER A REAL DRAGSTIP BUT WHEN CLOSED IT KINDA MAKES IT HARD TO DO SO.

[traveler]

1) We're talking and joking about a FANTASY Jason. Winning the Lottery and what could be done. NOT real life. If I want to FANTASIZE about a runway/dragstrip, I will do so.

2) In the incident that you went to court over, you admitted (to us) that you and Tyler(?) were indeed racing. When the officer pulled you over you may not have been speeding but you were at some time previous speeding.

3) When the drag strip is closed there is an easy and safe solution. Don't race. Wait until it is open, work on your car in the meantime, do anything but drive in a hazardous way on public streets. Racing is not a necessary part of life. It is a hobby, a way to pass time.

[thunderbird96]

i wasn't racing tyler when i got the ticket.
It was travis following next to me.
I raced tyler at short road and it's not a public road.
IT'S IN A WAREHOUSE AREA.

[351cat]

what else is it going to take to make him listen up?


Yeah, that camaro we saw sobered me up a lil bit... dont know bout anybody else...

[LOLA]

The more stupidity I read here the more I want nothing to do with this place.

[SuperCharged91]

Do you mean stupid comments or stupid actions

[LOLA]

Do you mean stupid comments or stupid actions

Stupid actions. I'm glad I didn't make the meet in Feb.

[eli66048]

LOLA, not sure what you're expectations are but, don't judge our club by the small amount of stuff you read here.

Danny

[351cat]

LOLA, not sure what you're expectations are but, don't judge our club by the small amount of stuff you read here.

Danny

I tried to tell him the same thing, but i honestly really dont blame him. If i get my 95 DOHC that i want, i'm coming to kc and running everybody :) can anyone say twin screw? (distant future)

[2TonCat]

The more stupidity I read here the more I want nothing to do with this place.

Excuse me, but you don't know ANY of us, and you're already passing judgment on all of us? Wow, thats really mature. There's no steriotyping going on there at all!

Please elighten me on how we are frothing in stupidity enough to warrant YOU posting that comment towards US in OUR chapter forum.

[LOLA]

This post for starters. Street racing is for f*cktards period. I do not tolerate it at all. I don't care if Jason kills himself. I just don't want to see him kill an innocent by standard. Jason is the immature one.

I'm on several forums and this is the only one that I see with the stupidity problem. The majority of the members here would be banned on the other fourms I'm on because the s*it would not be tolerated. Post like this would have been deleted after it was posted.

I don't see Jason being any different in person then he is here.

[sinhumane]

sure jason acts exactly like he is here... but you cant just pass him off as another 'street racer' i do it, ryan did it, most of us have done it at one point. even you, i'm sure. just because we do it, doesnt make us any less human, nor does it give you right to preach to us. your thoughts are appreciated, but your disrespect isnt welcome.

[LOLA]

sure jason acts exactly like he is here... but you cant just pass him off as another 'street racer' i do it, ryan did it, most of us have done it at one point. even you, i'm sure. just because we do it, doesnt make us any less human, nor does it give you right to preach to us. your thoughts are appreciated, but your disrespect isnt welcome.

And disrespect of innocent people is not welcomed by me.

And no I NEVER have or NEVER will street race because I respect the lives of others.

I'm out of here.

[sinhumane]

dont let the door hit you in the a$$ :o

[traveler]

Guys, in all honesty, you can't blame LOLA for not wanting to hang out on this forum.

If an outsider reads the threads, without knowing the people, very often they don't reflect well on those that post. (And I am as guilty as others) He is judging people on the only information available to him at this time. His personal opinion on Street Racing is the same as that of the law. He's against it. (So am I for that matter)

So quit giving him a hard time, and try communicating with him to show him we're NOT the idiots that admittadly(sp?) we appear to be at times. Rather than acting as if we really didn't want any more members here anyway. And if you aren't one of those that has been so cavalier about his leaving, don't assume I was talking about you and get defensive.

[2TonCat]

Part of the reason I'm on this forum is because we can have threads like this without having them be deleated.

Everyone has their opinions. I have mine and you have yours. It doesn't bother me hearing other people's opinions, but it really pisses me off when forum admins delete posts as soon as someone expresses their views.

I don't know if you're in agreement that we should be able to express our opinions freely or not, but obviously you don't like being censored any more than I do. ("s*it")

Now, onto the actual points of discussion....

Jason... You haven't met him, so you only see half of what goes on. He's not the person you're thinking he is. He'll tell you about what parts he wants to buy, and try to sell you stuff, and tell you about Marc blowing by him in his old SC-- but he's not the douchebag you're thinking he is. Heck, he just made this post because he thought it was funny that a Subaru got scared of the blower whine. He wasn't posting this topic to say "HEY! I weaved in in out of rush hour traffic to get to a subaru and we both screamed at eachother, and he got OWNED! I'm such a good street racer!". That wasn't the point at all. Infact, all of Jason's racing took place on a highway, and he likely wasn't even speeding.

Street Racing... No Fast&TheFurious here, yo! I'm sure when you think "streetracer" you think punk kids with riced out cars, obnoxious exhausts, slammed on their ~~~ with no suspension geometry at all- weaving through traffic at 90mph at 3:30pm in a school zone, cutting off old ladies in their Buick Regals. I agree with you that this is a horrible behavior, but the "Street Racing" that members of this chapter partake in is nothing remotely similar. We aren't stupid - We don't want to get killed just as much as we don't want to kill other people. The WORST place I have seen anyone racing was a private industrial drive- All of the buildings are closed down and the drives are gated by the time anyone races. Like I said, we don't want any accidents. The stretch I race on is -- Well, here, let me show you it. -- http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=maps.google.com&ie=UTF8&ll=39.094314,-94.313657&spn=0.007894,0.014462&t=h&z=16&om=0 -- a 3250ft long stretch of devided 4 lane highway with forward and rearward visibility of probably another quarter mile to a mile depending on which way you look. Thats almost 2 and a half times the lenght of a normal quarter mile. Plenty of room to do your business and slow down before there's even a possibility of other cars even entering the raodway. Those of us who resort to racing on the street for one reason or another are serious about orgonizing it and making it safe for us, our vehicles, and everyone else. The last thing we want is to be another story on the news getting all of the old folks up in arms again. Incase you aren't aware, Kansas City has a huge street racing scene (www.kcsr.org). Last year, we lost 3 out of hundreds of members, and not a single one was racing when they lost their life. Please consider the real problems of society before you jump all over a group you don't understand. You're much more likely to get mowed down by a drunk driver than one of us.

[Thunder95]

Ryan, you are still disregarding the fact that it is ILLEGAL! Bottom line. Just cause you're only endangering yourself, and doing it 'safely' doesn't make it legal or okay.

-Joel

[2TonCat]

Ryan, you are still disregarding the fact that it is ILLEGAL! Bottom line. Just cause you're only endangering yourself, and doing it 'safely' doesn't make it legal or okay.

-Joel

Installation of bathtubs with four legs resembling animal paws is prohibited. Be careful when building those houses Joel ;)

Yes, I'm not a 'morally sound' person. I accept that. There are obvious reasons for laws against street racing. When a healthy alternative is there, sure, I'll take it. I'd much rather goto the track and see how fast I'm running, but due to the complaining douchebags that moved in next to the track, KCIR is only open long enough to get in 1 or 2 runs.

I make my own causal judgements based on the situation at hand. For example, laws against street racing are to prevent people from endangering the lives of others. If the lives of others aren't in danger to start with, then the purpose of the law is void.

Judge me as you will. I will always remain part of the questioning minority. If that makes me a bad person in your eyes, I'm really not bothered.

[SuperCharged91]

I do not really like street racing(Have done it though) but i do not have anything against people who do it as long as they are not stupid about it. Honestly if i was at the place ryan posted i would probley race

[Thunder95]

I give up.

-Joel

[2TonCat]

I give up.

-Joel:D Don't let it bother you.

We've clearly got two groups of people here. The Dark Side and the Jedi if you will. ~~~~, we've even got JarJar Binx (Tyler). Half of us do what we feel is right, and the other half do what they have been told is right.

What's impressive is that even though our group's subcultures have soo many variances, we still get along great, and have fun togeather. That's what counts. We know a group of you dispises streetracing, so we don't do it when you're there. Its as simple as that.

Jon has the right idea... (Though some may say he's one of us since he has street raced)... He doesn't care for street racing, but he doesn't dislike us because of it.

[traveler]

....Jon has the right idea... (Though some may say he's one of us since he has street raced)... He doesn't care for street racing, but he doesn't dislike us because of it.

Exactly. Having met most of you in person, I can say that none of you are the ego-maniacal, crazed, idiotic street racers of 2F2F. I don't street race, for a number of reasons. I don't have to (I can get my fill of racing at MoKan usually) and there isn't a lot of competition here in Parsons on the streets anyway. And it is illegal so safe or not, if caught it is expensive and plays hell on your insurance.

[351cat]

wow, ya wake up late and look what ya miss, lol. Great discussion you guys have going. I'm kind of on both sides of the fence. I've never street raced, but not because i didnt want to. My coug is the first thing i've had that could be considered fast, and i care too much about it to risk blowing it up or crashing it. I try to keep stupid off of the streets, but i gotta admit, an inch of solid ice on the road makes for some interesting drives :D I keep my stupid below 15 MPH, that way if i phuk up, i scuff a wheel or dent a mailbox, not kill myself, my car, or someone else. I also admit that i do like the occasional mini-drift at intersections when the roads are wet. Again, i only do it from a stop, and all i gotta do is give a little exra gas on the 1-2 shift (ryan and jason can attest to this) I dont do it all the time, and i dont do it in rush hour traffic either. So, in conclusion, my opinion is this: If you wanna street race, do it, i'm not gonna look down on you, and i usually enjoy watching it. I usually do not partake, but that doesnt mean i dont enjoy it occasionally. It's kinda like how i'm a smoker, and very few of you are, but i never get preached at for smoking. (thanks, by the way, i hate that, i know its killing me, jeesh) :rolleyes:

-Brad

[Melon]

So I wasn't going to post again.. but apperantly I lie..

If I had to pick, I'd say I'm against street racing - mostly because it seems like you hear about it on some public street, someone lost control of their car - whether weather conditions, street conditions, or just plain too much car for the driver to handle - crashing and injuring and/or killing themself or someone else. That's the racing I avoid no matter what - I don't want that on my shoulders the rest of my life - knowing that I made a poor decision that took the life of an innocent human being. Hence why I preach about driving very sane and normal when we all caravan someplace. All it takes is 2 people trying to prove their dick is bigger than the other person to have a problem.

NOW if you are going to race somewhere other than the track for whatever reason (not saying I condone this) I say find a stretch of road with little to no traffic and no threat of various animals running in front of you. I've hit a deer going 50mph, I'd rather not hit one going 90. I don't know anything about the road known as "the shortroad" so I can't judge that one. Young people in this group can't honestly tell me they don't know where other car enthusiasts their age go and race - I knew of a few places in high school but I never had anything to prove with my car.

So this got longer than I wanted. I'm on the fence about it - yes, it's illegal.. yes, I can honestly say I've never done what I thought was street racing. Sure, stop light to stop light WOT run messing with the guy in the other lane, but I have never street raced. Sure, I do almost WOT to get a good, healthy 1-2 shift, and like to spin the tires on occasion - but I try to be careful about it. But we all make dumb decisions - that's why it's called a mistake. If you want to street race, go for it. I won't stop you, nor will I think different of you.

Cliff notes: Street racing is illegal, but if your going to - go to the empty stretch of road where there's no traffic, animals, or anything. But be prepared to face the consequences if something would go wrong. I keep mine to the track for legal reasons - I don't want to run the risk of getting caught and losing my license - I depend on it waaay too much.

-Melon