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  1. #16
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    Can you hook the starter to the cars wiring and have someone else turn the key to see if the bendix moves? Is it making a grinding noise when you try to start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLOWN38 View Post
    Can you hook the starter to the cars wiring and have someone else turn the key to see if the bendix moves? Is it making a grinding noise when you try to start?
    Chris,
    That is how I tested it last night. It doesn't make any grinding noise. The starter just spins, like it is free. The bendix moved perfectly fine. I am thinking about placing clay against the flywheel to see where it is hitting.

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    Are you using the original flywheel and crank....
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    Quote Originally Posted by the-big-e View Post
    Are you using the original flywheel and crank....
    Eddie,
    Yes, I am using a stock short block.

    Ken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Seegers View Post
    Eddie,
    Yes, I am using a stock short block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Neibert View Post
    Broken crankshaft ?
    David,
    The crankshaft is good. I check the bottom of the engine prior to installing it. I can turn the crank.

    Ken
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    It sounds like the starter ring on the flywheel might not be in the correct position....

    I like using the clay idea....
    Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man. Landing is the first !!!!

    Every day, I set a personal record for consecutive days I have remained alive!

    If you cut a crumb in half, you don't get two half crumbs, you get two crumbs
    Doesn't this violate some law of physics?

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    I tried the clay trick..it engaged for a sec then spins. I changed the battery, solenoid and the same thing. I am completely stumped. When I start the car the volts go from 12.0 to 9.8...does that sound right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Seegers View Post
    I tried the clay trick..it engaged for a sec then spins. I changed the battery, solenoid and the same thing. I am completely stumped. When I start the car the volts go from 12.0 to 9.8...does that sound right?
    Thanks
    ken
    A little low. You should have about 12.5 no load on the batt and depending on the cranking amp rating is usually in the 10's somewhere when starting.
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    It sounds to me like the bendix (the part that moves the pinion out to contact the flywheel) on the strarter is bad. Try installing a new starter

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    You won't believe this.........the motor was spinning. I could not see it from the car. Last night I had a friend come over to look at it and it was turning. I have no compression, that is due to the stud mounted rocker arms being too tight and the valves are open all the time. Now I have to redo the rocker arms. I hate stud mount rocker arms. I don't have this much trouble with my bolt down rockers. I should have the car done by Monday.

    Thanks for everyone's help.

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