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    Help Diagnose this awful noise? (sound bit included)

    So I've recently had sway bar end links and outer tie rod ends replaced. I still have this horrible noise coming from the front passenger side. Simply jerking the wheel left or right makes the noise as well. Any ideas? I've taken it Ford and they can't figure it out.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15rPs...ature=youtu.be

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    The some of the years of SC's have a large washer for the upper shock mount that can rub the shock tower opening if the upper mount is worn. You might check to see if this is happening. If I remember right, the early cars have a smaller whole than the 93ish ones. If you put the washer from a 93 on an 89, it will rub even if the upper mount Is in decent shape.

    Anyway, pop the hood and look for signs of rubbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFishbone View Post
    The some of the years of SC's have a large washer for the upper shock mount that can rub the shock tower opening if the upper mount is worn. You might check to see if this is happening. If I remember right, the early cars have a smaller whole than the 93ish ones. If you put the washer from a 93 on an 89, it will rub even if the upper mount Is in decent shape.

    Anyway, pop the hood and look for signs of rubbing.

    BTW, Rockauto is by far the cheapest place to get these...
    I'll check this out today, much appreciated!

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    I think this is the problem, here. What part is this?




    This car was taken to Jerry's Ford Leesburg on 4 separate occasions and this was never brought up. I brought it in this morning and had the tech take a ride with me, he said he'd have to take it for a few days again to "diagnose" the issue.

    I don't know ~~~~ about cars, and found this issue within 2 minutes of looking at it.


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    Upper control arm. You might be able to move it around by hand.

    This is very common, boots go and it wears out.
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    I can't quite make out the noise from the video. The picture is the upper control arm w/an upper ball joint. Last I checked, you could still buy these at any auto parts store. The upper control arm & ball joint come as one piece. I would suggest trying to buy Moog or TRW parts. I replaced same part on my car 7 years ago. Now it's starting to knock on the passenger side going over bumps again, I jacked the front of the car up, turned the wheel right, then left, while smacking the TIRE ONLY with a 5lb hammer. Turns out it's the upper control arm, bushings and ball joint. Hope this helps. Good luck!
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    As the guys menioned, it's the upper control arm. Still readily available.

    I think usually, when worn out, it will make more of a rattle than a squeak like I thought I heard in the video, but I suppose if the grease is all gone, it could make a nasty squeak easily.

    I would have thought that would be obvious to a mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFishbone View Post
    As the guys menioned, it's the upper control arm. Still readily available.

    I think usually, when worn out, it will make more of a rattle than a squeak like I thought I heard in the video, but I suppose if the grease is all gone, it could make a nasty squeak easily.

    I would have thought that would be obvious to a mechanic.
    Balljoints will squeak badly when dry. The uppers on these cars do typically rattle quite a bit when worn. The technician should have diagnosed a broken grease cup during a visual inspection. Those upper control arms are defintitely still available.

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    This is the same noise mine is making.....did replacing the upper ball joints fix the noise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocar4 View Post
    This is the same noise mine is making.....did replacing the upper ball joints fix the noise?
    I have found that when the fron suspension is squeaking that badly it is typically the lowers that are dry.

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    Sounds a lot like metal grinding. Another place to check the lower strut rod where it goes into the crossmember, on the crossmember it looks like a cup that the rubber bushing and rod go threw that cup is pressed together some times they get lose and start moving and sounds like the front end is going to fall out. If that is the case you will have to put a tack weld on both sides of that retainer to keep it from moving around. this happened to my car and it drove me nuts trying to figure out. the best way to find the problem is to put the front end in the air place a jack under the lca jack it up and look for movement of the retainer cup in the crossmember. Hope this helps.

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    I was thinking the sawy bar bushings might be worn/dried out, but that was before I read the comments. I would check the upper strut mounts out to see if they are worn. The Upper ball joint there should probably be replaced too since the cover is torn and has probably let the grease out and will wear fast now, but I haven't heard an upper make a noise like that.

    When the car is sitting still and you press down on the front of the car to bounce it, is the noise still present?
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    It's probably the strut making noise is my guess. If you can get it to make noise when pushing down on the right front of the car yourself then get another person no put their hand on the strut and see if they can feel the vibration that noise is causing. Find where the vibration from that noise and you'll find your problem. Maybe it's the steering rack??? Cant be that hard to figure out if its making that much noise.

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    lower ball joints. When that noisy they are completely dry.

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    I had 2 year old sway bar end links make mad noise, I ruled them out till I shot penetrating oil in the boots of the links & they were forever quiet. They did make a solid creaking noise you could feel in the steering wheel.
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