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    2016 Shootout Weight Data

    I didn't have as many takers on the scale this year as last year, but here are the weights I recorded:

    Ira Robinson 4??? (I forget)
    Sarah Homan 3554
    Derek Thompson 3701
    Cory Binks 3737
    Chris Vining (Marauder) 4178
    Adam ?? 3900
    Stock 92 (name?) 3732
    Dave Clark 4021
    Will Smith 3389


    The weights I've collected over the last 3 years (if I've weighed your car more than once, I've listed the most recent weight):

    Brian Oatway 2957
    Will Smith 3389
    Sarah Homan 3554
    Dave Dalke 3675
    Jim Smith 3684
    Chris Vining 3686
    Derek Thompson 3701
    Matt Haub 3725
    Scott Bruhn 3731
    Stock 92 (name?) 3732
    Cory Binks 3737
    Jeff Bratton 3738
    Chris Homan 3776
    Ryan Zimmerly 3806
    Jacob Royer 3819
    Zachary Lowe 3838
    Rich Bruhn (BB car) 3891
    Kurt Kreisz 3892
    Kurt Sunday 3892
    Adam ?? 3900
    Steven Watson 3923
    John Speziale 3988
    Dave Clark 4021
    Jim Sanderson 4022
    Chris Wise 4038
    Ken Wagner 4102

    I've now weighed 26 individual MN12s at the Shootout. The average weight of all these cars is 3778. If you take away the two lightest and two heaviest cars as statistical outliers (Brian's car and my car really skew the average down), the average goes up a bit to 3805.

    It's hard to make any real conclusions from this data, given how modified the typical car at the Shootout is. Some mods save weight (aluminum LCAs, etc) while others add weight (Cobra brakes, stereo stuff, etc.). And of course some cars had more fuel than others, so not all car-to-car comparisons are apples to apples.

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    Thanks for bringing the scales again Will. Its always interesting!
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    4280 if I recall correctly

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    Somehow I completely missed that you brought them this year. I really wanted
    to see what changes I have made added
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    307rwhp 12.70@107.2 (MPX)
    395rwhp Whipple.... et ?????

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    Sorry to anyone who didn't get to weigh a car. I try to be available as much as possible, but we also tried to set up out of the way, which meant they were by the tent. If you weren't looking for the scales, you may not have seen them.

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    Do you happen to remember what the highest or average front to rear weight ratio was?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMac89 View Post
    Do you happen to remember what the highest or average front to rear weight ratio was?
    Not from this year. I only have that data from 2014: Zach Lowe's Cougar had the best F/R weight ratio (53.2/46.8) and the average was 56.6/43.5 (yeah, that's 100.1%, but rounding).

    And even though our gas tanks are sort of centrally located, fuel load does make a difference. Adding 75 pounds of gas improved F/R weight distribution on my car by .8%.

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    I looked back at my notes from this year and last year. My front was 58.2% and the rear was 41.9% last year. I dropped about 60-70 lbs this year and the distribution was 58.4% front and 41.6% rear. My fuel level is as similar as i could get it, probably within 2 gallons (guessing less). The the biggest chunks of weight reduction came out of the rear suspension components.
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    That's interesting. These cars are so long it's just the way it is. I'm pretty sure my car will be 60%, but I still have a cage to put in. I have a fuel cell in the trunk as well as the battery and a 6 gallon water tank for intercoolers. Then the solid axle rear would be an improvement on traction since it's unsprung weight.

    Two turbos and intercoolers doesnt make it any better. I did move the motor back about 1.5 to 2" though

    I'm kicking myself for being lazy and not getting on your scales!
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    Yea, your scales should have been down by the dumpster or up by the cones. I'd say up by the cones would have worked out well for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nettlesd View Post
    Yea, your scales should have been down by the dumpster or up by the cones. I'd say up by the cones would have worked out well for you.
    Down by the dumpster so that we could actively reduce our weights!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ira R. View Post
    4280 if I recall correctly
    I think you took my heavy weight title from me. Mine was 4100+ last time I was on his scales. Its dropped a few hundred plus pounds since then

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenewagner View Post
    I think you took my heavy weight title from me. Mine was 4100+ last time I was on his scales. Its dropped a few hundred plus pounds since then

    Ken
    Of course, Ira and his drag wheels/tires were in the car at the time...

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    2017 #s with no jack or spare or sub
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    2013 Shootout Bracket ET First Place
    2015 Shootout Car Show Honerable Mention
    2016 Shootout Mod-1 First Place
    4.2, 2.3 Whipple, 3.73s AOD
    307rwhp 12.70@107.2 (MPX)
    395rwhp Whipple.... et ?????

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    I assume all weights were without the driver? I wish I could have made the shootout, my junker weighs about 2,760 without me in it. Although I guess I would have been all bent out of shape if I drove up from Texas and it was a rain out.

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