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  1. #76
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    Got the steering rack bolted up last night....I left the inner and outer tie rod adjustments alone, so shouldn't need an alignment. Also cleaned the front swaybar a little and painted it, since it would look out of place. Couldn't quite get the car in the garage with the little time I had last night, plus dad has a few things he wants to move too. Should be tonight! I expect things to move much quicker once I don't have the daylight constraint anymore.

    I hope to bolt in the swaybar with new bushings, bleed the front brakes and put the front wheels back on and roll it into the garage this evening. Might clean up a couple other parts....it's SOOOO much nicer assembling clean / new parts!!

    If all goes well, I may be dropping the engine / transmission into the car on Thursday night. The big thing after that is getting the radiator and IC mounted and tubed up. Hopefully the flux core stainless MIG wire I bought will do the trick and look OK. Hmm...probably better test it sooner rather than later.

    Any tips on MIG welding SS? I've done it with my arc welder before and it turned out ok...just not pretty....I'm thinking MIG will be tons easier than trying to weld thin SS with an arc welder though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverfastenough View Post
    I have an extra set of 4.5 SVO valve covers that would clear anything you want to run
    I assume I was too slow?
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    Went camping with the family this weekend, but did manage to get the engine harness re-installed, modified, cleaned up, re-routed, etc. I think the engine bay is ready for the motor/transmission.

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    Yesterday, I had a little bit of time and dropped the gas tank and exhaust....need to pull the driveshaft, since I'll be putting the engine/trans in pre-bolted together. Also, planned to replace the stock fuel pump /sending unit connector with the bolt mod. Mine connector looks just fine after about two years of use with the 320lph pump, but it's not worth the risk.
    Matt Haub
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    Now I'm rollin'

    Trimmed the corse support to fit the new radiator and welded up some brackets on Thursday night / Friday....my fist time MIG welding.....SOOOOO much easier than stick welding on the little things! Making presentable welds is going to take some practice though. I wanted to do all this before the motor was for the sake of dirt and metal shavings getting everywhere and my own comfort. I didn't take any pictures of the radiator yet....I'll get those with the FMIC work.

    Then....got the motor and transmission in. Need to put hoses, brackets, etc. back on over the next couple of days, then start on fabb-ing up the FMIC! Hopefully will be able to stay on track.

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    Matt Haub
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    Looking good....

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    Looks great Matt!
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    Looking good!!!!! Do work son!!
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    Thanks gentlemen!

    My sister's birthday was yesterday so didn't do much outside after work....I did answer my nagging question about the valve cover vents...they WILL fit after the SC and IC pipes are installed. I might need tweak the outlets to point parallel to the valve covers to make it look better, but I think they'll clear without anything too crazy.

    Thinking about hosting a steak dinner for anyone that can help this Sunday. Need to see how far I can get by Friday...goal is to be ready for startup early next week.
    Matt Haub
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    Black '89 5spd - 281K miles, MPx, E85, Alky-Inj ¦ RWHP: ? RWTQ: ? ¦ Best 1/4mi:12.521, MPH:107.23mph
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    I don't want to drag anyone from what they're doing...okay, maybe I do...but if anyone wants a steak dinner this Sunday, feel free to drop by. If you get grease, rust, dirt or any other vehicular fluids on you, you can eat...otherwise cost is $50.

    Don't feel obligated to come - I'll get the car done one way or another. Even if I have to take it to Jacob's house with a 12-pack and convince him his car is black now and needs the IC pipes redone again.

    I'll be out there from 9pm-ish till 3-4am tonight and have been granted most of the day Friday (8am till 7:30pm or so) too...hopefully it will be down to IC pipes and odds-n-ends by then. Be cool to start it up while everyone is there, but chances are I'll forget something.

    Don't know if I've mentioned it or not, but I've been working out of dad's garage, which is crammed full of projects, potential projects, former projects, and miscellaneous items that have sparked his creativity over the years....so there's not alot of room...bring yo lawn chairs. Looks like it's going to be a warm day...as long as you wear something with more coverage than speedo's, you're welcome to use the pool I put up this summer...lol....yes, it's not closed yet.

    So...for progress... found a maintenance issue last night. Although, maybe this contributed to the "floatiness" it's had the past few years after putting on the Gabriel shocks and cutting the springs.

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    Starting to look pretty grubby under there again too.

    I got the accessory brackets touched up (removed some material left from some hacksaw mods and primed/paint those spots. Cleaned up the alternator, got the starter bolted back in and started working on my flux capacitor exhaust ports into the downpipes. I hope to have the under-car stuff done tonight or tomorrow morning, get the accessory brackets and related junk on the motor and have the FMIC mounted. Friday, I may be ready to start working on the FMIC pipes...we'll see. Hopefully by Sunday, it will be about ready for startup and the first 20miles break-in.
    Last edited by DrFishbone; 09-21-2017 at 12:43 PM.
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    Lots of progress on the SC since the last update….

    Thursday night…..
    I got the accessory brackets cleaned up, and touched up, installed..along with the accessories. I got the SS AN power steering hose (and look-alike for the return line) routed and cut to length. I have a power steering cooler that I plan to install near the horn location, but I have looped the line for now. Late Thursday night, I decided I did not want to install the VAPS / EVO on the PS pump, since I’m removed that system anyway. So, I was a little frustrated when I found I’d need another fitting to adapt to the metric-to-AN adapter. Looks like a junkyard run is in order…which I didn’t have time for…save it for tomorrow and rethink it…

    My awesome wife made a stencil for me too....so the valve cover got the first application.

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    The rest of Thursday and bits of time on Friday were spent addressing multiple places where I wanted to “clean things up a bit” – whether it was a plug I don’t use anymore, harness that looked ratty, something that looked a little ugly, etc. I hope the overall engine bay reflects my love for the car after this.

    Friday…
    First thing I wanted to tackle was the power steering connection deal. It struck me as I woke up that most Ford cars don’t use the EVO, but they use a very similar (or the same?) PS pump….maybe I can just grab the adapter off another Ford…like one of the cars in my dad’s personal junkyard….90’s Ford Ranger and an 84 LTD out back both had the adapter! I swiped it off the Ranger and installed new seals included with the rebuilt PS pump….seals seemed a little loose though. Near the end of the day, after fitting everything together, I wanted to test the PS system for low / no pressure leaks. turned out the adapter leaks I’ll put it off again….hung a funnel and oil bottle underneath to catch the leaking power steering fluid….I’ll deal with it later. Filled the new motor with break-in oil (15W40 Shell Rotella) and primed it with a cordless drill….scratch that….started smoking….a corded drill….whoops…started smoking too. Lol They’ll both be okay. I would have got the cam sensor stalk installed, but I can find my homemade piston stop.  Stopped a little early and went swimming with the kids. 

    Saturday night…
    After thinking about the power steering leak some more, I figured I’d try the old seals off the Ranger – which I saved for this exact reason….FIXED IT! didn’t need to buy any new parts or run into the junkyard AND realy cleaned up the PS pump area of the engine bay!

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    Got the injector harness cleaned up and wrapped, supercharger and inlet piping mounted, everything connected and fitted before 4am bedtime.

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    With the radiator sitting in place.....

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    Sunday….
    First thing was to get the intercooler mounted….took a lot longer than it should have. Dad helped me out by welding up a couple of joints on the exhaust and hanging out with my little buddy Nathaniel. Set up Jacob’s chop saw with a more appropriate cutting wheel and made my first couple of cuts on the IC piping. Shame to cut something so pretty….lol.
    I can’t remember what all I worked on Sunday morning…but Sunday evening, Jacob stopped by to help fit-up the IC pipes. (THANKS JACOB!!) We got about 2/3 finish….after some head scratching and chatting with Jacob, my plans changed just a little bit to hopefully make the pipes look very neat in the end. It did require cutting a big chunk of core support out of the lower radiator mount area….I had thought about cutting it out anyway. We got all the lower piping fitted up and tack-welded with the flux-core SS wire that I bought. It welded pretty good, but the flux makes it hard to tell. We were working in poor light / in the dark by that time, so we didn’t even try to chip the flux off the welds and see what they looked like. I’ll get my hammer and do that when it’s time to finish the welds I guess. Anyway….couldn’t have gotten near as far without Jacob’s help!
    I had hoped to be done yesterday, but there’s still time. I’ll fit in car work whenever I have an hour here and there….next large chunk of time will be Thursday night….Then I have all day Friday. If it’s not ready to start-up after Friday, I might need to face the music. I’ve spent too much time and money on the car this year to rush it to the Shootout. Hmm…..might haul it there anyway though….lol. We’ll be representin’ either way though…Danielle is planning to race.  It’ll be the first time I’ll be in the pits full time, if so!
    Last edited by DrFishbone; 09-25-2017 at 11:01 AM.
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    Intercooler progress.....

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    Matt Haub
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    What did you use to wrap the wire harnesses? I really need to do this to mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrFishbone View Post
    Hmm…..might haul it there anyway though….lol.
    I'm sure if you hauled it you would get some help wrenching the in the parking lot of the hotel. Looking good so far!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzimmerl View Post
    What did you use to wrap the wire harnesses? I really need to do this to mine.
    David Clark introduced me to it...hopefully it holds up over time. I think he may have used a 3M type...here's what I used:

    http://www.tesatape.com/industry/aut...ire-harnessing

    It's cheap too...I did the whole engine bay for $15, with plenty left over (except the very low harnesses...didn't want it to get oil soaked over time). I did scrub the whole harness good with plastic brushes and Dawn soap / water....let it dry..then wrapped it. If you were feeling lazy or didn't have almost a pound worth of oily road grim on everything, you could probalbly just wrap it up.

    lol...I seriously had between 0.5 and 1 lb of grim I scraped off the subframe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NASTY V6 View Post
    I'm sure if you hauled it you would get some help wrenching the in the parking lot of the hotel. Looking good so far!
    Thanks Scott! And yes, that'd be the plan!

    Kids aren't coming this year, so I can stay out late with a clear conscious.

    Would I be gutsy enough to race it on Sunday though? hahah...I don't know about that.
    Matt Haub
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