right on and hello. No that the car is in Arizona you have to lose the front plate. They look better without it. Meets would be great if we had them. It's still a little hard to get everyone together. A great group we have out here though. I'm going to try and watch some football tomarrow at Padre Murphys if anyone is up. Probably the 1 o'clock games. 43rd ave and bell N.W. corner.