EEC Tuning Section

[XxSlowpokexX]

I know its been mentioned before but how about a tuner section for those wanting to tune their cars?

After looking at a few tunes (mind you I'm NOT a tuner) I noticed lack of upper RPM timing maps (from the factory) and timing being basically artificially raised from approximately 4,000 and up to compensate for the lack of timing you cant program in above 5,500 (or somewhere therabouts). So your basically getting the timing the car needs at the higher RPM's but at what cost? More prone to detonation?

Anyway I think an EEC tuner forum would be a great arena to discuss tuning topic only ideas and to share tune files between members (for those that would share). I'd perfer to learn through education then experimentation.

There are many of us that woudl love to share ideas, or just learn. I also realize some may not want to share but thats ok as well. Just think it would be a great addition. Perhaps a member only forum.

[fturner]

I concur, but when I messaged the bosses with the idea they said no to it.

I've also noticed on the earlier SC's (not sure about the later ones as I haven't looked yet) that the injector timing based on crank degrees is no where near optimal... especially at higher loads and RPM's. One of many things.

[XxSlowpokexX]

I dont see why we couldnt have a section for this. Many forums do to an extent. Perhaps not a file sharing place but at least an area where one can do a search and perhaps find the answer or person to help.

[Mike8675309]

Guys, what's wrong with the Performance section?

[Miller]

I think the problem would be that theres not a big group of people here that know how to tune.( just a guess? ) it would basically turn into Hey, how can I do this myself .....and im sure most of the questions by people would be directed at, Mr. Dalkey who dosent want to give his bizzzz up for freebies

[XxSlowpokexX]

Nothings wrong with the performance section or even just posting in the general tech section. Heck we can just make one huge forum section for everything. Afterall we arent the largest ACTIVE forum on the net. However it may be a topic that can be discussed heavily and therefore if someone wante to find information easier there would be a place. If I was personally a person who was good with code and lets say EFI management and tuning but not perhaps buildinga motor....I would look in that section to help people and probably spend a majority of my sccoa time there..Likewise if I was trying to learn. I also feel it would spark more interest in tuning and help those interested.

On the other hand maybe it wouldnt even be a popular section because many wouldnt want to help others with this. I have seen this attitude in the past (and its perfectly acceptable as we all have our own choices here). One has the secret part number combination for pistons and rods while the other has the super secret valve/spring combination. A year or two ago I had a very well known and respected ford engine builder willing to build us performance based shortblocks. When I tried to research different combinations people were using but all I could really give him was my own. He was more then willing to do "his own thing" but I said let me see what else is out there. In the end there didnt seem to be any interest in providing exact information on combinations so I told him that there wasnt an interest and that our comminity as a whole seemed perfectly happy doing what they have been doing all along.

Perhaps the same holds true with tuning. I personally know my freinds who are profesional tuners do not like giving away their secrets as well. But seriously folks. Like most I dont like having to pay 1 time for something I can do myself let alone pay 5 times over. Tuning and dyno time are not cheap. Either is my time however I'd rather do it myself and learn something then rely on someone else.

So if the community as a whole would rather pay someone (which is what I do currently anyways) then something like this is a bad idea. If not then its a great idea. Bottom line