Engine swap possibilities

[Nate_V6]

351w can be had for under 500 and you save money by not having to build the bottom, but its ok, you can still build a killer 363.

[David Neibert]

Originally Posted by RoccoRock05

so, bottom line to get this thing moving is to source a 1993 thunderbird with the 5.0 first. ive got a few other concerns as well. since i want to keep all my accessories, such as A/C, what am i going to need to do that? more specifically, am i going to run into any problems with the electronic climate control that i have in my 94? overall, what are the main compatibility issues i am going to run into?? ive currently got a spec stage 2 clutch with their billet steel flywheel installed on the SC. its barely used, but is that going to work right off the bat, or do i need to get that rebalanced or something along those lines? i am going to want to install headers right away; so am i going to have to modify anything for them to fit? i really want to make sure that all aspects are covered here. i want have this as well thought out as possible.

Here you go Rocco...1993 LX w/5.0 for $500

http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=118810

David

[sd_iconoclast]

Originally Posted by XR7 Dave

I did a 5.0 swap on a 5spd SC and it was fine. I did also add an aluminum flywheel, dual exhaust, and electric fan while I was doing it so it had a few advantages but in that form it ran about as well as a stock SC. I think if you did that and added a KB blower kit the car would be a lot of fun without being overly complicated and would be dead nuts reliable.

Perfect timing for this thread! I just bought a '90 SC with the idea of doing the 5.0 with KB Supercharger swap. But, I just talked to Kenne-Bell and they say that they do not sell the supercharger kit for T-Birds anymore. So I asked if I could use the 5.0 Mustang kit. The tech guy said that he did not know the answer, because he could not find anyone who knew what the difference was between the kits. Does anyone know the difference?
Does anyone have the 5.0 TBird kit from Kenne-Bell?

[XR7 Dave]

Originally Posted by sd_iconoclast

Perfect timing for this thread! I just bought a '90 SC with the idea of doing the 5.0 with KB Supercharger swap. But, I just talked to Kenne-Bell and they say that they do not sell the supercharger kit for T-Birds anymore. So I asked if I could use the 5.0 Mustang kit. The tech guy said that he did not know the answer, because he could not find anyone who knew what the difference was between the kits. Does anyone know the difference?
Does anyone have the 5.0 TBird kit from Kenne-Bell?

I believe you can use the 94/5 Mustang kit but it will require an aftermarket hood.

[decipha]

I currently own 3 supercoupes (3x v6 3.8 supercharged) and a 92 stock 5.0 lx that i swapped in a 351w and m5r2.

If i had it my way I would have stayed with the 5.0 and put a supercharger on it like I originally wanted to. Only reason why I went with the 351w is because I threw 2 rods in the 5.0. Thats when the 351w swap for a few hundred more appealed to me.

Anyway, just thought I'd share. If your interested in knowing how involved it is I have a swap thread.

http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=103398&page=19

[sd_iconoclast]

Originally Posted by decipha

I currently own 3 supercoupes (3x v6 3.8 supercharged) and a 92 stock 5.0 lx that i swapped in a 351w and m5r2.
http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=103398&page=19

decipha, why did you choose the M5R2?
One of my goals is to eliminate the M5R2 in favor of something like a T56.
I find M5R2s to very difficult to shift quickly, particularly in lower gears.

[MadMikeyL]

Originally Posted by sd_iconoclast

decipha, why did you choose the M5R2?
One of my goals is to eliminate the M5R2 in favor of something like a T56.
I find M5R2s to very difficult to shift quickly, particularly in lower gears.

The problem with the M5R2 being difficult to shift is entirely in the shifter. Replace the stock ~~~ shifter with a B&M ripper, and it shifts just fine. Plus the M5R2 is strong and cheap, whereas the T5 is weak and cheap and the T56 is strong and expensive.

[sd_iconoclast]

Originally Posted by MadMikeyL

The problem with the M5R2 being difficult to shift is entirely in the shifter. Replace the stock ~~~ shifter with a B&M ripper, and it shifts just fine. Plus the M5R2 is strong and cheap, whereas the T5 is weak and cheap and the T56 is strong and expensive.

Great! I will definitely try the B&M shifter.
I agree the that M5R2 is strong and cheap, and the T56 is expensive, but it does have one extra gear.

Also, I had always heard that the M5R2 would not bolt up to a smallblock. Is an adapter required?

[MadMikeyL]

Nope. The 3.8 and the SBF have the exact same bell housing bolt pattern. The only thing is you need to get the correct flywheel, or have the SC flywheel rebalanced. Other than that, its a direct bolt-in swap.

[sd_iconoclast]

Originally Posted by MadMikeyL

Nope. The 3.8 and the SBF have the exact same bell housing bolt pattern. The only thing is you need to get the correct flywheel, or have the SC flywheel rebalanced. Other than that, its a direct bolt-in swap.

How do the shifter locations compare between M5R2 and 91 mustang T5?

[MadMikeyL]

The T5 shifter will come up about 6" too far forward for the tbird. The M5R2 will come out in the exact right location.