Stock location billet fuel filter

[rzimmerl]

Been thinking about replacing the stock fuel filter with a billet reusable filter. The stock filter is 3" OAL at the filter area. These are for -6 size filter I/O.

This filter should fit, 3" OAL x 1.25" Dia., 40 micron filter, what micron is needed?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-650133/

Then use these fittings to adapt to the stock line, not sure what size it is yet
5/16 - http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-640930/
3/8 - http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-640940/

Then join them with these couplers
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-220641B/

Just an idea instead of replacing the stock filter, let me know if I'm off the wall on this one.

[bowez]

Just get rid of the not-quick connect stock connector and just just AN fittings.

[rzimmerl]

Originally Posted by bowez

Just get rid of the not-quick connect stock connector and just just AN fittings.

How do you propose that using the stock plastic lines?

[Kurt K]

This is the one I'm using mounted in the stock location. I wrapped the filter in neoprene gasket material since it is slightly bigger than the stock filter and it is held in-place just like the stock filter. Mine currently has -6 AN connectors, but I will be changing them out to -8 AN connectors. I don't see those AN options listed on their website though anymore.

http://www.sx-performance.com/Fuel_Filters.htm

Shouldn't you be upgrading your fuel lines too?

[rzimmerl]

I'm still up in the air about line upgrade. Seems stock lines are -6 and work fine for quite a few people. Been looking into a BAP also, not sure if I'll need the dual pumper setup

Would an -8AN compression fitting adapter work safely on the pump hat outlet? Then that leaves the return stock, or does that need to go larger also?

Found these fittings also that should go right onto the pump hat if I use -6 line.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-640850/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-640860/

[rzimmerl]

Another question is how many GPH are needed for the filter? The one I posted flows 130GPH.

Answered my own question 130GPH converts to 492LPH, and a 255LPH pump converts to 67GPH

[David Neibert]

Originally Posted by rzimmerl

Another question is how many GPH are needed for the filter? The one I posted flows 130GPH.

Answered my own question 130GPH converts to 492LPH, and a 255LPH pump converts to 67GPH

Ryan,

That filter looks perfect for the dual pump system that several of us are planning to install this year.

David

[rzimmerl]

Originally Posted by David Neibert

Ryan,

That filter looks perfect for the dual pump system that several of us are planning to install this year.

David

What size feed line are you guys going too?

They have the same filter but in a -8 version. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-650103/

[David Neibert]

Originally Posted by rzimmerl

What size feed line are you guys going too?

They have the same filter but in a -8 version. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-650103/

Most likely dual 6AN supply lines and a single 6AN return line. When we did that on my turbo car I bought some generic high pressure fuel filters and cut the hose barb nipples off and added compression fittings and 6AN adaptors to each end. It was a real pain and it looked kinda rigged up.

http://members.tccoa.com/dneibert/dualpumps.jpg

David

[rzimmerl]

Looks like the stock filter is 5/16 on both ends. I am going to order this setup and see how it works out. Worth a shot when a stock filter is now $15.

I'll update the post when I fit it up next week.

Ran across this deal in Jegs, buy the filter get spare element free. Its only 2-5/16 OAL also, same delivery specs as the Russell
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/15030/10002/-1

[bowez]

I assumed but it in the stock location and totally remove the stock flexible lines and put in your own. I HATE those not-quick connector.

[XR7 Dave]

Those are 40 micron filters. I believe that 10 micron is recommended for fuel injection. But with 80lb injectors maybe it doesn't even matter.

"I do not have a narrow uritee. I could pass the child myself if I had to!"

[rzimmerl]

Russell only goes down to a 40 micron filter, so do we really need the 10 micron?

I don't have 80's, only 60's so I won't be able to pass large kidney stones, more less a child...

[XR7 Dave]

About fuel filters.

It says in there that 10 microns is the standard for automotive fuel injected gasoline engines. I've read that elsewhere also and Aeromotive sells a 10 micron filter but it's nearly $100 by the time you buy the necessary adapters, etc. 40 microns is for carburetors.

I think the reason that a 10 micron filter is so expensive is that the steel mesh necessary to achieve that filtration is expensive and takes up a lot of space to allow the necessary flow. A paper element is cheap and easier, but that wouldn't be cool in a 1000HP fuel system. The other (and probably main) reason that a steel mesh must be used in the Aeromotive filter is that it is also used for alcohol systems where the presence of water is common and water is death to a paper filter.

[rzimmerl]

The Russell and the Jegs filters I posted both have stainless mesh for the filter element.

Here is an Aeromotive unit that filters to 10 micron, but it uses a paper filter not steel.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEI-12301/

Here is another that is 10 micron with steel mesh, but pricey
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEI-12333/

I can see the need for a diesel engine needing the fine filter to remove the particles so that it does not damage the injection pump. Hence why diesels have more then one and large fuel filters.

I was at my buddies shop last week and they use 100 micron on their Supra's. They currently have run 7.80s in one of their cars. At their last race they had a guy that they believe clog the 10 micron filter and that caused the engine to go.